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Gorga’s removal from CSM 10

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alpha36
Atomphysiker
#21 - 2015-08-04 16:21:50 UTC
pras
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
Chao3 Alliance
#22 - 2015-08-04 16:38:31 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Good move.

Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?


+1

Vote Borat Guereen for CSM XII

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UAxDEATH
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
#23 - 2015-08-04 16:42:31 UTC
Two step wrote:
UAxDEATH wrote:
Thank you for an opportunity to be CSM once again. This came unexpected for me. Looking forward to work with CSM X and CCP team.


PS. I do not work for Digital Forest, I own my own construction Company in New York (which could be read here http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-04-18/multiplayer-game-eve-online-cultivates-a-most-devoted-following )


This is a lie, he actually is a world-renowned moonshine producer. The construction company is a front!


Is this a new way of "killing" you competition in moonshining ?? You god danm Bostonie
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
Chao3 Alliance
#24 - 2015-08-04 16:53:17 UTC
Soolarize wrote:

I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.

Isn't it the same of democratic elections in any democracy today? getting to understand issues and taking interest in representatives takes work and research. This is not for everyone, and it is up to each of us to decide if we want to cast our votes by blinfdly following a tradition, or following orders or doing our own research...

Soolarize wrote:

Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.

I somewhat agree with you, and I have a more jaded perspective. This game is very unique in the fact that it is one single shard and some players have been there for 13 years. Some have amassed considerable amount of power and influence, much like some families of professional politicians have done in RL. This is fundamentally human nature. The weird secret brotherhood of players is working top continue their domination of the games politics, like any one in their position (even you) would do. They do not necessarily crush new players has much as inticed them to join their ranks, through all these training corps that are fundamentally funnels for new in-game taxes income.
Find candidates and groups that fight the establishment and say they will upheld views you can agree with and support them. My top listed candidates for CSM X were Borat Guereen, Ashterothi and Chance Ravinne. Find yours and support them.

Vote Borat Guereen for CSM XII

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#25 - 2015-08-04 17:09:29 UTC
Tiberius StarGazer wrote:
CCP Leeloo wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Good move.

Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?

We are looking into this.


I believe Fuzzysteve has already put something in fuzzworks for this?



I think what was being asked for, was about the request to have Gorga removed for inactivity, rather than the actual voting for CSM members.

If I'm wrong about that: https://github.com/fuzzysteve/WrightBallots will run the election, with whatever candidates removed that you want.

Anyway: my own leaning about it is obvious if you follow me on twitter. Or saw what I said on Reddit. Someone who goes inactive for months isn't someone who should be on the CSM. Having someone who works is always better than someone who isn't there.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Endie
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2015-08-04 18:57:07 UTC
Soolarize wrote:
Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this

Quote:
UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative


I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.

Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.

Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...


What is your badly-expressed point? That CCP should ignore the rules, skip down the list past all the nullsec candidates with more votes, and arbitrarily pick someone who doesn't play anywhere except highsec?
Sidrat Flush
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#27 - 2015-08-04 20:32:59 UTC
Soolarize wrote:
Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this

Quote:
UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative


I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.

Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.

Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...


I believe Karma Fleet, Brave Newbies and the Pandemic Horde would disagree with you on that. Oh wait, they are ALL null sec entities - I include Brave, because they may not have their name on the map they will eventually and in the meantime they're spending most of their time in null anyway.

Could your view point be because not much interesting happens in High Sec and what does can be found on the miner bumping website, which isn't exactly a great advert for new players, but does give them an accurate portrayal of how to play Eve Online.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#28 - 2015-08-04 20:39:48 UTC
Was Gorga contacted? Or did he contact CCP as to explain his low activity? (no details needed, just curious)

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Jenshae Chiroptera
#29 - 2015-08-04 23:14:09 UTC
How does Lorealai keep getting passed over as a replacement?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#30 - 2015-08-05 00:00:50 UTC
Soolarize wrote:
Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this

Quote:
UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative


I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.

Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.

Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...


Null sov war impacts everyone in EVE except that subset of super-new players that choose to live in highsec and ignore null.

My alliance primarily concentrates our activities in highsec (with a moderate amount of lowsec and occasional wormhole activity). We do not aspire to own sov and allow members to be loyal to whatever sov holders they want or to none. Yet sov affects us considerably.

Many of the, uh, clients of our ganking services are transporting items that are being imported to or exported from sov null. Changes in null industry affect the prices we pay for tech 2 blasters (Morphite is 12% of the build cost of Light Neutron Blaster II, and Particle Accelerator Units are partly moongoo derived and are a significant component too).

I've never fought in a null fleet fight, yet every time one happens, I watch to see what interdictors are lost en masse, and start making them in big numbers. (Yes, I have 200+ runs of each Interdictor BPC pre-invented for this very reason). I also made bank out of selling Goons meta 4 sensor disruptors at extortionate prices during the Halloween war.

Even if you have no interest in personally participating in nullsec blob warfare or even in leaving highsec, it creates opportunities you can seize.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

CCP Leeloo
C C P
C C P Alliance
#31 - 2015-08-05 00:14:38 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Was Gorga contacted? Or did he contact CCP as to explain his low activity? (no details needed, just curious)

Yes, we contacted him.

CCP Leeloo | Community Developer | @ccp_leeloo | leeloo@ccpgames.com

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#32 - 2015-08-05 08:37:47 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
How does Lorealai keep getting passed over as a replacement?


Because not enough people voted for her?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jenshae Chiroptera
#33 - 2015-08-05 10:52:13 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
How does Lorealai keep getting passed over as a replacement?
Because not enough people voted for her?
It is quite a convoluted system but it looked as though she missed a seat by one place.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Endie
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2015-08-05 12:47:44 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
How does Lorealai keep getting passed over as a replacement?
Because not enough people voted for her?
It is quite a convoluted system but it looked as though she missed a seat by one place.


Remember that who gets what voted cascading down to them depends on who is being discarded. Although I am pretty sure that Bam was the other person in with a chance depending on who dropped out next.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#35 - 2015-08-05 13:06:00 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
How does Lorealai keep getting passed over as a replacement?
Because not enough people voted for her?
It is quite a convoluted system but it looked as though she missed a seat by one place.



Not that simple.

When people are eliminated, all votes they would have got cascade down their ballot one space. So if people have a good number of people on their ballot, the trickle is very important.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#36 - 2015-08-05 13:31:26 UTC
UAxDEATH wrote:
Two step wrote:
UAxDEATH wrote:
Thank you for an opportunity to be CSM once again. This came unexpected for me. Looking forward to work with CSM X and CCP team.


PS. I do not work for Digital Forest, I own my own construction Company in New York (which could be read here http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-04-18/multiplayer-game-eve-online-cultivates-a-most-devoted-following )


This is a lie, he actually is a world-renowned moonshine producer. The construction company is a front!


Is this a new way of "killing" you competition in moonshining ?? You god danm Bostonie



2 yankees fighting about who makes the best moonshine......LOL
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#37 - 2015-08-05 16:54:50 UTC
Kenneth Feld wrote:
UAxDEATH wrote:
Two step wrote:
UAxDEATH wrote:
Thank you for an opportunity to be CSM once again. This came unexpected for me. Looking forward to work with CSM X and CCP team.


PS. I do not work for Digital Forest, I own my own construction Company in New York (which could be read here http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-04-18/multiplayer-game-eve-online-cultivates-a-most-devoted-following )


This is a lie, he actually is a world-renowned moonshine producer. The construction company is a front!


Is this a new way of "killing" you competition in moonshining ?? You god danm Bostonie



2 yankees fighting about who makes the best moonshine......LOL


Not best, worst!

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog

X4me1eoH
AirGuard
LowSechnaya Sholupen
#38 - 2015-08-09 01:54:00 UTC
почему нет голосования? я например против
Tiberius StarGazer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2015-08-10 00:45:04 UTC
Am I Correct in thinking that there was an activity report of some sort that was used as evidence for inactivity?
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#40 - 2015-08-10 09:20:03 UTC
Tiberius StarGazer wrote:
Am I Correct in thinking that there was an activity report of some sort that was used as evidence for inactivity?


Yes, there was the inevitable spreadsheet showing attendance at meetings.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

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