EVE General Discussion

Aaron, you're silly.

Ahhhhhhh, you got me! *embarrassed*

I'm Sorry ok. will never happen again you have my word.

You might wanna start learning russian, i will start off for you: njet pregam: do not jump

I have a non-aggro pact with members of a Russian alliance who are dedicated to the area Hub Zero is in, the alliance I am on about have lived around here for a good 4 years now and were betrayed by other Russian groups in Stain, It was a nasty affair. I decided to reach out to them and arrange a non-aggro pact because I liked the fact that they chose to remain true to who they are and not join up with the other Russian alliances but still remain in the area.

I may decide to have a look at some of the Russian language so that I am in a position to take part in their fleets and if I become good enough perhaps FC some fleets. I am open to adapting and I am keen to help secure the area.

There has been lots of drama among the people who came here and have now left and I'd like to apologise to the people considering coming here. I am sorry, I know I could have kept quiet and built up my corp until I was in a position to be more vocal. However, what I wanted to create simply was not in line with what the people I was with wanted to create, Hub zero is about being honest but in a constructive and non imposing way. I am an honest person and I will always be straight with you.

I'd like to try this with some fresh new faces and I'd like to get out of the habit of involving people who seem to have a bad impression about me, I have found it difficult to relax around these people and most of my time got spent on debating and arguing.

I just want to keep this simple to be honest, If you choose to come here I will be a big help in achieving your personal PVP goals and will happily fly in your fleets under your command, the only real catch is I'd like the same in return. If everyone who comes has this type of attitude we can really make a safe place for mission runners who can benefit greatly from a LP benefits.

If we take the time here to analyse the content chain here we will see that by having mission runners in an area creates PVP opportunities, this is a fact that PVP'ers can exploit to get their fun, and the mission runners can exploit this by having a safe area in NPC 0.0 to run missions. I hope you can see that if we do this right it will be relaxed fun all around. Lets just take it in turns to fleet command, lets help each other provide ships, lets defy the rest of the universe and show them that it can be done, let us also show them that people can work together and adapt to any situation.

Trust me this venture runs deep, there are people prepared to sell us ships and arms in order for us to achieve our PVE and PVP and economy goals. They got billions of stuff just sitting in a station in Hub zero collecting dust, Lets give them a reason to put it on the market and manage it, lets kick start this economy.

I am still and always will be eagerly waiting for interested parties to contact me directly.

Regards,

Hello,

It is difficult to get Hub Zero off the ground as I have seen. The main difficulty seems to be difference of opinion and agreeing to something and moving forward with it. I've spent some time telling you how I would like to do this and the response has been limited and I am in-fact down here alone partly of my own choosing. Don't be disappointed, my quest is far from over and I am still dedicated to Hub Zero.

My mistake was to think that people can organise themselves and achieve goals within a community without the assistance of a large corp or alliance, I have found that this may not be possible because lets be honest, most people including myself will simply wan't their own way. Perhaps I've got too much faith in people.

The only way this will be possible is if I build a corp dedicated to securing the area, once the area is secure then we can move forward and start inviting people to blue us so they can PVE and take part in our PVP fleets, the local economy will be built and we would have the finance and manpower to do regular JF runs to Jita, our community will be born. This seems like a great idea for a corp which I will take to the recruitment forum.

I'd like to thank all the people who were and still involved, you have my gratitude. I will be open to chatting to anyone with an interest in gearing up for this and I am still happy to set people blue, If you have read this thread carefully you should have a good idea of how I want to go about doing this so if it is in line with how you operate then give me a call and we can talk.

Thanks for keeping the trolling to a minimum, take care and fly safe.

I will look forward to chatting with you on the next episode of your favorite Eve sci-fi drama Hub Zero.

And then you flew to 4gq and got a Tempest, my old Tempest, hope you like it!

I am looking forward to success. If player jumpgates can have tolls, then imagine a network of single station sov connections. Stategic networks of freeports. In past, moving stuff was easy, but with sov challenges now, could be cool if can work.

The conclusion to this thread has already been reached. In a previous post I stated that I would need to ceo a larger corp in order to secure the area. When a good level of security is reached more small corps and solo pilots would be interested in joining. This will take me a couple of years to achieve if I am to do it properly.

You misunderstand me Deuce, this is not some 720 inspired ranting and the fact you see what I type as forceful and bitter means that you have not really understood what it is I am trying to achieve and how I'm going about doing it. In fact I'd say in this episode people were forceful and bitter toward me, lets see, I've been threatened to set someone blue or face a wardec, I was given ultimatums, my access to their team speak was limited.

I'm not bitter at all because I expected most of the stuff that happened.

The conclusion to this thread is that most people in Eve are happy to work within their comfort zone and won't want to come out. It is now my goal to create something as close to their comfort zone as possible. I can admit myself that I have been lazy in creating a corp and recruiting for the specific purpose of Hub Zero security.

I'll be moving Aaron out of Stain for a year or more and joining an old friends corp. I'd like to gain a different perspective on leadership by observing how my friend goes about doing it and learn from how he deals with the rigors of life in Eve.

I'll be back to Stain one day, to liberate it.

I'm not sure if you've understood my goals. I'd like to manage a corp, yes, and that corp would assist a blue community in Stain just as the title to this thread says.To me this was a coalition of blues of sorts, I saw it more as a blue community that was starting up. The keyword here is community which means;

1. a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.
2. the condition of sharing or having certain attitudes and interests in common.

I was looking for adventurous people who are brave and wanted to create a section of null sec with relaxed responsibilities due to it not being sov. I got involved with people who did not share my ideals of creating a community so the outcome was what you saw in this thread.

It was definition number 2 that we failed on, were not prepared to agree on the condition of sharing and we did not have attitudes and interests in common. You speak of disenfranchisement from its members, I must ask you were the people I was with really members? Is the true spirit of membership to ignore everything the founder of a venture says? some of the people who were with me had no idea of the existence of this thread and even refused to read it.

It's fine with me if these so called members are only here for the PVP, but don't start telling me how to organise this if you don't like the idea and want nothing to do with it.

Dracvlad and his coalition of blues seem to be doing well and have got some great kills, I wish them lots of success in achieving their goals.