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Kahar Dex
Imperial Dreams
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#61 - 2015-08-04 05:44:48 UTC
Saede Riordan wrote:
The Alexyvlva Paradox has managed to acquire the location of this tower. Shall we destroy it, or would someone else like the privilege?

The CVA has an interest in the whereabouts of this foul heretic's lair.

Please send me a note, or drop by my office. Cluster coordinates are in my CONCORD pilot's description with holo-data uplinks if you cannot venture in person.

Cardinal Kahar Dex
Cardinal of Amarr - Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance

His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2015-08-04 07:03:39 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Does anyone realize what Nauplius is doing here?

Pleading for the attention and respect he's done nothing to earn?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2015-08-04 08:44:18 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Tyrel Toov wrote:
But can you summon an exciting demon?


This would be counterproductive.

So you can't...... You are the worst demon - summoner ever. A demon needs to be exciting, fire and brimstone erupting from the ground, evil monologs (not the s**t you spout, truly evil monologs), gratuitous nudity, chanting, psychological torture, and a horrific Visage. If you can't do that, you may as well sic kittens and children on us....


According to Battlemace, a demon that doesn't warp reality upon appearance, does not cause all bystanders to go totally nuts, and does not cause the sky to change colour, the weather act weird, the lifestock giving birth to mutant spawns that start murdering everything, is no demon at all.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#64 - 2015-08-04 11:25:39 UTC
This is so stupid! Like really really stupid! You are definately going to end up messing up your life and God will punish you!

I think there are a lot of freaks in Amarr. Alot of Blooders in high positions. I see them everywhere! Why is Nauplius allowed in the Crusade when he is doing crazy stuff like this! I ask you! It's because evil people are wheedling their way into the Court!

There needs to be an inquisition, now why can't the elders see it?! The Theology Council has to be notified of any kind of weird behavior!

-:¦:-•:'":•.-:¦:-•* K H A N I D •-:¦:-•:''''*:•-:¦:-
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#65 - 2015-08-04 11:29:52 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:

Demons love to disobey people. Why do you think there are no demons or summoners about - most of the latter were killed by the former, who then returned to going about their daily business instead of rampaging through this plane.


My demons are firmly bound. They only thing that would unbind them is to do what others on the thread have threatened to do: destroy the Temple and the Demonologists inside.

Non-Minmatar should therefore think seriously whether they want to destroy this Temple. Do you really want to unbind demons that have been bound to the destruction of a Minmatar bloodline only?

Even Minmatar should think seriously whether they want to destroy this Temple. The ancient texts seem to indicate that unbound demons continue their original programming, albeit in an increasingly chaotic, extravagant manner. It is logical that a demon bound to the destruction of a single Minmatar bloodline might begin attacking all Minmatar bloodlines — even Minmatar buildings and planets and spaceships.

Therefore, it would be better for all concerned to allow my demons to remain under the control of the trained Demonologists who have bound them, which means you don't get to destroy the tower. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2015-08-04 11:51:21 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
This is so stupid! Like really really stupid! You are definately going to end up messing up your life and God will punish you!

I think there are a lot of freaks in Amarr. Alot of Blooders in high positions. I see them everywhere! Why is Nauplius allowed in the Crusade when he is doing crazy stuff like this! I ask you! It's because evil people are wheedling their way into the Court!

There needs to be an inquisition, now why can't the elders see it?! The Theology Council has to be notified of any kind of weird behavior!



The reason why people like Nauplius are allowed in the 24th is because of a loophole in CONCORD regulations.

That he is allowed to join is a disgrace.

That very few people in the 24th seem to be willing to do anything about it is even more disturbing.

I once flew proudly with the 24th, and we used to police our own. I will not commit again to service until enemies of the Empire are removed and this stain upon the honor of the 24th is cleansed.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#67 - 2015-08-04 12:09:41 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
This is so stupid! Like really really stupid! You are definately going to end up messing up your life and God will punish you!

I think there are a lot of freaks in Amarr. Alot of Blooders in high positions. I see them everywhere! Why is Nauplius allowed in the Crusade when he is doing crazy stuff like this! I ask you! It's because evil people are wheedling their way into the Court!

There needs to be an inquisition, now why can't the elders see it?! The Theology Council has to be notified of any kind of weird behavior!



The reason why people like Nauplius are allowed in the 24th is because of a loophole in CONCORD regulations.

That he is allowed to join is a disgrace.

That very few people in the 24th seem to be willing to do anything about it is even more disturbing.

I once flew proudly with the 24th, and we used to police our own. I will not commit again to service until enemies of the Empire are removed and this stain upon the honor of the 24th is cleansed.



However much I like to make jokes at little kin's expense when it comes to their erstwhile allies, in reality there's very little you can do about it without a lot of even worse consequences. Since the performance and regulation adherence review systems are entirely automated, it means anything we do to remove the undesirables counts as significant black marks on our record and will eventually make us counted as even worse enemies than the opposition. In addition, it will often lead to even greater strife within the FacWar members and could potentially ruin any chance of progress.

Ironically, you being outside the system means you are in a far better position to "police" the militias through simple wardecs or acts of benevolent piracy. If taking personal action is unattractive, proxies can be hired to harass and hinder these... "stains... from enjoying their positions.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say the opposing forces can be of use there. Find yourself some undesirables in need of violent expulsion from your local? There should be a rather significant amount of trigger happy orange stars in the surrounding systems that would love to do the job for you. Getting an honorable system in place to avoid this being used as traps or betrayals from either side would of course be a challenge, but possible.

Although I suspect in the end, no matter how much we wail and gnash our teeth about horrid vermin draping themselves in blue stars, it'll remain a matter of vocal disapproval and little to no action. After all, they're oh so useful for taking and defending the systems we ourselves don't have the numbers for and for that purpose it would appear neither PIE nor U'K or any other so called "honorable" loyalist entities have even the slightest form of standards, honor or principles.

What do you know? We're all just honorless killers, no matter how much we like to pretend otherwise.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2015-08-04 12:19:00 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Trii Seo wrote:

Demons love to disobey people. Why do you think there are no demons or summoners about - most of the latter were killed by the former, who then returned to going about their daily business instead of rampaging through this plane.


My demons are firmly bound. They only thing that would unbind them is to do what others on the thread have threatened to do: destroy the Temple and the Demonologists inside.

Non-Minmatar should therefore think seriously whether they want to destroy this Temple. Do you really want to unbind demons that have been bound to the destruction of a Minmatar bloodline only?

Even Minmatar should think seriously whether they want to destroy this Temple. The ancient texts seem to indicate that unbound demons continue their original programming, albeit in an increasingly chaotic, extravagant manner. It is logical that a demon bound to the destruction of a single Minmatar bloodline might begin attacking all Minmatar bloodlines — even Minmatar buildings and planets and spaceships.

Therefore, it would be better for all concerned to allow my demons to remain under the control of the trained Demonologists who have bound them, which means you don't get to destroy the tower. Amen. Amarr Victor.


Your demons do not have doomsday devices. Fire away.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#69 - 2015-08-04 17:50:50 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Trii Seo wrote:

Demons love to disobey people. Why do you think there are no demons or summoners about - most of the latter were killed by the former, who then returned to going about their daily business instead of rampaging through this plane.


My demons are firmly bound. They only thing that would unbind them is to do what others on the thread have threatened to do: destroy the Temple and the Demonologists inside.

Non-Minmatar should therefore think seriously whether they want to destroy this Temple. Do you really want to unbind demons that have been bound to the destruction of a Minmatar bloodline only?

Even Minmatar should think seriously whether they want to destroy this Temple. The ancient texts seem to indicate that unbound demons continue their original programming, albeit in an increasingly chaotic, extravagant manner. It is logical that a demon bound to the destruction of a single Minmatar bloodline might begin attacking all Minmatar bloodlines — even Minmatar buildings and planets and spaceships.

Therefore, it would be better for all concerned to allow my demons to remain under the control of the trained Demonologists who have bound them, which means you don't get to destroy the tower. Amen. Amarr Victor.

This sounds like a desperate ploy to save a tower...... All the more reason to blow it up.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2015-08-04 19:47:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Sinjin Mokk
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:

However much I like to make jokes at little kin's expense when it comes to their erstwhile allies, in reality there's very little you can do about it without a lot of even worse consequences. Since the performance and regulation adherence review systems are entirely automated, it means anything we do to remove the undesirables counts as significant black marks on our record and will eventually make us counted as even worse enemies than the opposition. In addition, it will often lead to even greater strife within the FacWar members and could potentially ruin any chance of progress.

Ironically, you being outside the system means you are in a far better position to "police" the militias through simple wardecs or acts of benevolent piracy. If taking personal action is unattractive, proxies can be hired to harass and hinder these... "stains... from enjoying their positions.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say the opposing forces can be of use there. Find yourself some undesirables in need of violent expulsion from your local? There should be a rather significant amount of trigger happy orange stars in the surrounding systems that would love to do the job for you. Getting an honorable system in place to avoid this being used as traps or betrayals from either side would of course be a challenge, but possible.

Although I suspect in the end, no matter how much we wail and gnash our teeth about horrid vermin draping themselves in blue stars, it'll remain a matter of vocal disapproval and little to no action. After all, they're oh so useful for taking and defending the systems we ourselves don't have the numbers for and for that purpose it would appear neither PIE nor U'K or any other so called "honorable" loyalist entities have even the slightest form of standards, honor or principles.

What do you know? We're all just honorless killers, no matter how much we like to pretend otherwise.



Speak for yourself about honorlessness.

What you say about our collective allies does seem to be the long and short of it. That we agree, is rather profound.

Our Empress and my King call us to service, to defend those who cannot defend themselves. But it is CONCORD that calls the dance of the faction wars.

My oaths of service can be easily fulfilled without having to submit to the Rule of CONCORD.

What you describe is very much the system that was in place years ago with the "Khanid Provincial Vanguard." Sometimes we would fly under the 24th. Sometimes we would fly under the State Protectorate. Mostly we supported both when needed, but kept the peace in our own borders. This is the work I hope to see again in Khanid, and in other places where terrorists and criminals feel they can prey of the defenceless at will.

"Acts of Benevolent Piracy" has a fun ring to it. But it must be understood that a group that acts as a privateer outside the boundaries of the CONCORD-sponsored organizations, must hold to a higher quality of honor and commitment. Hunting the hunters while working the loopholes of CONCORD policy and procedure is one thing. Engaging in criminal acts against the population you are sworn to protect is quite another. This is a bit of wisdom that is completely lost on Sanist blood-savages like Nauplius. A Holder must guide and protect his charges, not wantonly slaughter them.

I can foresee a time when these border actions will come to an end. Existing and emergent threats to all of our governments will probably become a greater priority. The question is, will CONCORD follow their mandate as peace-makers and allow this natural progression, or will they continue in their corruption and insist that we keep the pendulum swinging (while they make ISK off of it)?

There is no love lost between any of us. Gallente, Matari, Amarr, Caldari. We have many valid reasons to hate each other. even to war with each other. But a wise Khanid once said that only a fool fights in a burning house. I'm willing to fight and die for a finer galaxy, but I'll not throw my life and the lives of my people away for a pointless cause, when there are threats far more insistent than say, U'K or the TLF.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#71 - 2015-08-04 19:58:36 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
This is a bit of wisdom that is completely lost on Sanist blood-savages like Nauplius. A Holder must guide and protect his charges, not wantonly slaughter them.


He's not even a holder. He's a commoner. He is also from the kingdom.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#72 - 2015-08-04 19:58:53 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
I'll not throw my life and the lives of my people away for a pointless cause, when there are threats far more insistent than say, U'K or the TLF.

So we need to be more insistent? I'll talk to leadership and see what we can arrange.... Pirate

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#73 - 2015-08-04 20:15:42 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
There needs to be an inquisition, now why can't the elders see it?! The Theology Council has to be notified of any kind of weird behavior!
Unless one assumes that the Theology Council is not part of the solution, but part of the problem.

Sinjin Mokk wrote:
The reason why people like Nauplius are allowed in the 24th is because of a loophole in CONCORD regulations.

That he is allowed to join is a disgrace.
That is correct. It is also correct that the Empire may adjust its legal standings with any capsuleer, disallowing him from acting against the spirit of the CONCORD regulations the Empire signed.

Samira Kernher wrote:
He is also from the kingdom.
This is utterly irrelevant. The Kingdom’s role in suppressing the Sanists is second to none.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#74 - 2015-08-04 20:19:39 UTC
Sanist is derogatory. It's Sani Sabik or Blood Seed.
Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#75 - 2015-08-04 20:22:30 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Sanist is derogatory. It's Sani Sabik or Blood Seed.
It is Sanist, Sanist.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#76 - 2015-08-04 20:26:43 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Sanist is derogatory.


So we should keep using that term, then.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2015-08-04 20:56:33 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
This is a bit of wisdom that is completely lost on Sanist blood-savages like Nauplius. A Holder must guide and protect his charges, not wantonly slaughter them.


He's not even a holder. He's a commoner. He is also from the kingdom.


He's from the Kingdom but not of the Kingdom. He gave up that birthright long ago.


Tyrel Toov wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
I'll not throw my life and the lives of my people away for a pointless cause, when there are threats far more insistent than say, U'K or the TLF.

So we need to be more insistent? I'll talk to leadership and see what we can arrange.... Pirate


Look up names like The Cosmopolite or Jade Constantine. Look up the Guritas Ethan Verone, who did as much against Amarr "slavery" as any five of this current generation of "Matari." That is your history. That is how high the bar is set. See if you can arrange that.



"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2015-08-04 20:58:34 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Tyrel Toov wrote:
But can you summon an exciting demon?


This would be counterproductive.

So you can't...... You are the worst demon - summoner ever. A demon needs to be exciting, fire and brimstone erupting from the ground, evil monologs (not the s**t you spout, truly evil monologs), gratuitous nudity, chanting, psychological torture, and a horrific Visage. If you can't do that, you may as well sic kittens and children on us....


You would not believe on how many levels I support this message. Basically, a Hex concert with real demons instead of fake ones.

Too bad the lead crashed a car while high on everything possible. Though she was Intaki so... you never know. He could be setting her up for a comeback... It's been a long time, too.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph
Arrendis
TK Corp
#79 - 2015-08-04 21:01:35 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Sanist is derogatory.


So we should keep using that term, then.


Almost as derogatory as 'Funk'...
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#80 - 2015-08-04 21:58:27 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:


Look up names like The Cosmopolite or Jade Constantine. Look up the Guritas Ethan Verone, who did as much against Amarr "slavery" as any five of this current generation of "Matari." That is your history. That is how high the bar is set. See if you can arrange that.




Those people mentioned are failures that are no longer around.