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Proclamation 7 - The Inquisition of YC117
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Kontrahage
Perkone
Caldari State
#221 - 2015-08-03 19:54:20 UTC
As this seem to be a more appropriate thread for this response:

Cydonia Meridian wrote:

No. Not one of those Capsuleers were murdered, we re-clone, remember?


Crews.
Mortal people aboard starships.
Die when ships explode.
At the hands of max the mad.

Gamblers are they?
Gamblers that die.
By the thousands
and forever.

Crying rivers we are.
Their families.
Their pilots.
Their holy Empress.

Perhaps it is time for colourings again.
Or for you to tell us that these people are not really people and their deaths are to be disregarded.
All for the sake of humanity, freedom of the slaves and all that.

Cydonia Meridian wrote:

Jamyl is not focused on the emergent threat. We are. Our goal is not division, it is to protect the people, and since Jamyl and her followers are not, then we have to split off and do it ourselves.
If unity is the thing you care about, then unite with us to fight for the people of Amarr, and the cluster. If the innocent lives are what you care about, then join us, and work to save them, not build statues.
YOU are causing the division, by stubbornly staying loyal to a false empress that does not care for you, or her people.


How have you protected the people again? Don't make me say it, please.
And what was Max's plan? Right, attack those who oppose the Drifters.

Your claims that it is the loyalists causing division and not your pretender emperor with his goon army is just a joke.

If someone feels this is getting old then it might be because it is.

Perhaps instead of repeating this over and over we could simply agree on the following:

Max and co:
People give up their right to live the moment they board a capsuleer's ship. Their deaths are of no concern.
Faithful
The lives of crewmembers are just a precious as anybody else's

The killing of capsuleers is a way to further one's spirituality.
Cloning is not a proper way to serve the Lord and possibly even a sin.

The empress is not god's chosen because she has not defeated the drifters and sansha (and because of some other stuff that currently eludes me.)
All the heirs and the council confirm her divinity. She has saved the empire from destruction once before and has done more in the struggle against those enemies than all other factions combined. Ours is to obey his will, not mold it to our personal preference.

Bow to Max or die.
Bow to GOD or be forsaken.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#222 - 2015-08-03 20:30:06 UTC
a'iiight, see? This's better. Good. getcher codpiece-wavin' on 'ere. I need 'nother vokka.

Skål.
Kontrahage
Perkone
Caldari State
#223 - 2015-08-03 20:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Kontrahage
I wonder why you bothered with this. The post was moved less than a minute after it's original appearance in the other thread and about a half hour before your response.

Must be the drugs.
Cydonia Meridian
House Singularity
Sixth Empire
#224 - 2015-08-03 22:32:48 UTC
Kontrahage wrote:

Faithful
The lives of crewmembers are just a precious as anybody else's
Cloning is not a proper way to serve the Lord and possibly even a sin.

What are you doing? You've been a cloning capsuleer for years, destroyed 300 ships, yours and others with crews, and yet you claim some righteous indignation because my moral code is sound? The hypocrisy sickens me.

Kontrahage wrote:

All the heirs and the council confirm her divinity. She has saved the empire from destruction once before and has done more in the struggle against those enemies than all other factions combined. Ours is to obey his will, not mold it to our personal preference.

I doubt the veracity of her claims to military involvment, but that aside, the Amarrian Inquisition has been called by the Pope, not the secular 'heirs'. There's no 'personal preference' in that, there's action by the spiritual leader for the people, the children of God; perhaps you should read the proclamation again.

It is the Popes right, and solemn duty, to call an inquisition when needed, as he has done.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#225 - 2015-08-03 23:16:11 UTC
Kontrahage wrote:
I wonder why you bothered with this. The post was moved less than a minute after it's original appearance in the other thread and about a half hour before your response.

Must be the drugs.


I bother 'cuz I care...
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#226 - 2015-08-03 23:43:27 UTC
I bother because this popcorn won't eat itself...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Kontrahage
Perkone
Caldari State
#227 - 2015-08-04 00:03:47 UTC
Cydonia Meridian wrote:

I doubt the veracity of her claims to military involvment


You dispute historic facts that occurred during our lifetime?
Who destroyed the Elder Fleet at the first Battle of Mekhios in your books? The Mittani?

Cydonia Meridian wrote:

but that aside, the Amarrian Inquisition has been called by the Pope, not the secular 'heirs'. There's no 'personal preference' in that, there's action by the spiritual leader for the people, the children of God; perhaps you should read the proclamation again.

It is the Popes right, and solemn duty, to call an inquisition when needed, as he has done.


You know this Pope and Inquisition thing is totally made up, right?
The spiritual leader of the people is the empress.
Aeon Amadii
#228 - 2015-08-04 00:24:13 UTC
Max Singularity wrote:


  • Charges for crimes against humanity as the ‘Templar Project’ harvested living sleeper beings recovered from Anoikis. The resulting project held in conspiracy against the Amarr Heirs thus raising clear and present danger to the Amarr Empire as a rapid increase of immortal soldiers by enemy states are presently proliferating New Eden.



    • Well, you're free to hire those of us who are willing. The Empire recently gave me a license to utilize their Imperial Marine colors given my uhh... "loyalties"...

    I wonder how many lives I saved, by myself, operating in their stead.

    (This character is the Eve version of Aeon Amadi since there is no cross-forum support)

    Member of CPM 2
    Cydonia Meridian
    House Singularity
    Sixth Empire
    #229 - 2015-08-04 00:25:23 UTC
    Kontrahage wrote:
    Cydonia Meridian wrote:

    I doubt the veracity of her claims to military involvment


    You dispute historic facts that occurred during our lifetime?
    Who destroyed the Elder Fleet at the first Battle of Mekhios in your books? The Mittani?

    History is written by the victor, and the circumstances surrounding Jamyl's involvment in those battles are dubious. Read up on your history, but this time, try not to just take everything on face-value.
    Kontrahage wrote:

    Cydonia Meridian wrote:

    but that aside, the Amarrian Inquisition has been called by the Pope, not the secular 'heirs'. There's no 'personal preference' in that, there's action by the spiritual leader for the people, the children of God; perhaps you should read the proclamation again.

    It is the Popes right, and solemn duty, to call an inquisition when needed, as he has done.


    You know this Pope and Inquisition thing is totally made up, right?
    The spiritual leader of the people is the empress.

    Jamyl is not the people's leader of anything. She sits by building statues and making hollow speeches, while people are fighting and dieing.

    Max is the duly appointed Pope of New Eden, by the PEOPLE, not by a legalized coup.
    Kontrahage
    Perkone
    Caldari State
    #230 - 2015-08-04 08:51:21 UTC
    You know, I have really had enough of this and I now understand the absence of the more venerated
    lords in these discussions.

    Either you are brain washed into believing this nonsense or you are under the impression
    that if you repeat your obvious lies often enough some people will eventually believe them.
    Utari Onzo
    Escalated.
    OnlyFleets.
    #231 - 2015-08-04 10:06:31 UTC
    Pope. What in His Name is a pope anyways. There has never been a pope. What kind of title born from the Amarr is it?

    Amarrian Inquisition. There is no such thing. There is only the Speakers of Truth and the Theology Council and neither of them have expressed any doubts on the Empress's validity.

    Chosen by the People. That honestly sounds a lot like elections done by the Gallente, something completely alien and unamarrian. Hell, even the State finds such a thing anathema.

    You keep saying these things like they mean something to the Amarr. They don't.

    "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
    Haruchai Khan
    Doomheim
    #232 - 2015-08-04 11:07:03 UTC
    Kontrahage wrote:
    You know, I have really had enough of this and I now understand the absence of the more venerated
    lords in these discussions.

    Either you are brain washed into believing this nonsense or you are under the impression
    that if you repeat your obvious lies often enough some people will eventually believe them.



    My grandfather used to say, "Never wrestle with a pig. You get covered in mud, and the pig likes it."

    It's not Scripture, but it's gospel truth nonetheless.

    The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.