Warfare & Tactics

Calmil doesn't need spies. They have Snuff on batphone.

I mostly agree with Legatus and I was bored.

I wasn't on tonight. Link battle report.

WORD.
REMOVE OFF GRIND LINKS AND BOOSTS. KTHXBAI

You didn't misread it. It was a mess of a fight, where nobody had idea who was fighting who.

remind me why they haven't been made into booster drugs? oh right, more alts more money.

Basing your arguments on peoples behavior rather than the mechanics in a computer game is a horrible way to complain about something.

mechanics dictate behavior and alts are accepted. So, live ive said many times, focus on changes to the mechanics that will lead to the behaviors that in your opinion is how eve should be played.

Though, since you still wont understand this i have very little faith that your opinions on how eve should be played will line up with many other people.

Arbitrarily deciding that behavior "doesn't count" isn't a very good argument, on the other hand.

Evading concord while killing non-hostiles in highsec is a behavior that was ruled an exploit. On the other hand, hyperdunking was not considered an exploit. These are both behavior based decisions, not mechanics based situations requiring changes to the game.

Behavior is something that cannot always be controlled with mechanics and does need to be accounted for with any changes you have in mind.

In the case of links, the mechanic itself is a good idea, but the nature of the game of eve online where alts are plentiful (because of the training system and CCP's stance on the issue) means that when you have a mechanic like links, people will use alts almost exclusively for that role. I know you want this to not matter, but it does.

People are not exploiting the mechanic, they are using boosting links exactly as they were meant to be used. Just because they are using an alt does not mean they are exploiting a game mechanic. The same effect would be gained if the they had a friend providing the boosting links.

I have a boosting alt. It did not start out as a boosting alt. It started out as a JF alt. Once I got that maxed out, I figured I mine as well train it to do other things.

You know why I trained a boosting alt? Because people were always complaining about other fleets having links, and we didn't; or people had links, but just would not fly them. Why? Because flying links is not fun.

So what you're saying is you COULDN'T get someone to fly links for you (which is exactly what I said earlier btw), then became forced to use your second paid account for links to be competitive with other fleet links.

But this is not p2w... lol

Can't make this stuff up if I tried

Yes. No. Depends how long you've been playing EVE.

Describe the role of alts in EVE to any other gamers and yes, it is classic P2W, I doubt there are more clear cut examples from other games. Like some dude said, pay RL money, gain in game advantage, doesn't have to be any more complicated or convoluted.

But, as you said, the entirety of the game is, TBH, built on P2W. In EVE, paying 30$ a month will give you vast advantages over someone paying 15$, this is not true for other games where trying to run two copies of a shooter/RTS/arcade/racing will hinder more than help.

This comes down to the fact that 'playing' EVE is really too easy. The idea of running two accounts/copies of the game (or more) is a joke in other games because the ordinary functioning of your character/ship requires far more skill and attention than it does in EVE. Aiming, movement, attention, consider the thought of running two copies of BF4, ridiculously impossible.

In comparison EVE is built for the older player, those tired of being upstaged by 'twitch skill' (being able to react quicker and more precisely, what plebian attributes!) Its not about how well you can aim, its about the tracking figure in a spreadsheet. Crosi is right, ?, mechanics largely drive behaviour. Increase the difficulty of operating a toon doing anything and you will see less multiboxing (mini hacking games to keep your boosts running would be a fantastic well of tears.) Though at this point the playerbase might only be left with older gamers, tired of the fight, slowly accumulating resources to stomp on new people, you'd might only end up driving away the only people that want to play this game.