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Suicide ganking a mining rokh

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nexocide
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-12-30 03:12:31 UTC
How many battleships would it take to kill a tanking rokh (in high sec) of lets say around 125000 efh assuming of course they all have perfect combat skills?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-12-30 03:20:20 UTC
My SWAG says 12

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nexocide
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-12-30 03:31:03 UTC
oh yeah i forgot to add its tank is 950 dps with shield booster II and amp II
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#4 - 2011-12-30 03:47:02 UTC
Booster is worth nothing in a High Sec gank, since it has do be done before Concord is there is also means your booster won't get more then 1 or 2 cycles either.

So just take 10k Alpha strike per ship (Arty BS or Tornado)

So 125k EHP comes down to 12/13 ships to get you.

Unless you are heavily Deadspace/Officer fitted no one is gonna bother to even try. Its way to much of an investment vs reward.

Unless you really **** someone off, with any gank if someone really wants to they will simply get you.
nexocide
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-30 03:53:30 UTC
even goonswarm during hulkaggeon? also i increased efh to 150000 by swhiching out boosters for extenders
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2011-12-30 04:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
This has about 45k EHP, EM weakest of course. I'm kind of surprised people would bother with more tank.

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nexocide
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-12-30 04:43:50 UTC  |  Edited by: nexocide
why hammerhead 2s and not mining drones? also i was able to get 67000 efh with 3 mining laser upgrades and 2 cpu upgrade for low
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-12-30 05:14:07 UTC
Too many.


The poor guy is suffering enough thinking he can actually mine in a BS rather than a barge, leave him be.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-30 06:44:22 UTC
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Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-12-30 12:32:24 UTC
dude nobody is going to ******* gank your mining rokh
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#11 - 2011-12-30 12:43:34 UTC
Killstealing wrote:
dude nobody is going to ******* gank your mining rokh


Now it's like a challenge or something.

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#12 - 2011-12-30 18:13:07 UTC
/Me giggles madly...

...URP-SPLOSION!!Twisted

Ni.

Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-12-30 18:38:54 UTC
Don't gank him. Pity him.

His life is sad enough as it is.
I mean really now, mining in a Rokh?
How bad must your life suck that you're willing to do this to yourself?

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#14 - 2011-12-30 23:14:03 UTC
nexocide wrote:
even goonswarm during hulkaggeon? also i increased efh to 150000 by swhiching out boosters for extenders


Hulkageddon is not a Goonswarm sponsored event. Never has been. And since I don't think clickfest Rokhs have been on the prize list in the past (since they're stupid), you're probably safe. Of course if you know how to mine properly, you're safe from Hulkageddon anyway.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#15 - 2011-12-30 23:19:25 UTC
nexocide wrote:
even goonswarm during hulkaggeon? also i increased efh to 150000 by swhiching out boosters for extenders

Don't use a shield booster, use extenders and hardeners. Because people will try and destroy your ship with a single volley only EHP matters because your booster won't get a chance to do anything. With only 45k EHP you'd easily be destroyed by 4-5 tier 3 battlecruisers, with 125k it would take at least 10, probably more.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#16 - 2011-12-31 05:44:27 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
nexocide wrote:
even goonswarm during hulkaggeon? also i increased efh to 150000 by swhiching out boosters for extenders

Don't use a shield booster, use extenders and hardeners. Because people will try and destroy your ship with a single volley only EHP matters because your booster won't get a chance to do anything. With only 45k EHP you'd easily be destroyed by 4-5 tier 3 battlecruisers, with 125k it would take at least 10, probably more.



^^This^^

Heavy buffer + resists >>>> Active tanking, because your active tank would probably never cycle fast enough to resist the initial alpha, and it definitely wouldn't rep enough damage quickly enough to survive the second salvo.

Successful sui-ganking is all about the alpha, as the gankers probably won't be able to get a second shot with the arty's painfully slow re-fire time--they almost certainly won't get a third shot off in time before CONCORD jams them out and urp-splodes them.

Fit a damage control in one of your lows, too, by the way--big difference.

Ni.

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-31 15:43:39 UTC
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
Troll, troll, troll this thread
Gently down the page

Verily, verily, verily, verily
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Kha'Vorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-01-02 01:52:33 UTC
Bettr than the Mining apoc I keep seeing.