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Market ore prices puzzle me.
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Abraham Kennedy
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-08-02 20:29:00 UTC
In my region, there are buyers of raw ore that are higher than their parts, as in, the reprocessed minerals collectively sell for less than the ore batch unprocessed. I have two guesses: the buyers can reprocess the ore batch better than I or the buyers were too lazy to do the math.

Please enlighten me, Warrior Wizards of Eve. Thx.
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Zero Zentharis
#2 - 2015-08-02 20:48:52 UTC
Fully upgraded nullsec stations have much higher refine rate then highsec stations.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#3 - 2015-08-02 21:24:33 UTC
also ease of hauling. you can compress ore, you can't compress minerals (except through manufacture etc).

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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-02 21:41:38 UTC
I believe there are missions that require raw ore
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#5 - 2015-08-02 22:25:28 UTC
Another factor is sometimes people post a buy order on ore, get outbid, but 0.01 rather than recalculate.

But it's probably a transport thing. Someone is building supercaps nearby.

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Tomb Ovaert
9B30FF Labs
#6 - 2015-08-03 11:12:44 UTC
As has been mentioned, it is likely due to high-er reprocessing yields in low-er security space: I think in High Security space one could get a 75% yield, 78% in Lowsec and around 82% in Nullsec outpost.
Abraham Kennedy
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-08-03 12:38:57 UTC
Tomb Ovaert wrote:
As has been mentioned, it is likely due to high-er reprocessing yields in low-er security space: I think in High Security space one could get a 75% yield, 78% in Lowsec and around 82% in Nullsec outpost.


Thanks for replying but why did you type high-er and low-er when higher and lower are the correct spelling of these words?
Kain Duku
LoGisTicAl ERr0R
#8 - 2015-08-03 13:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kain Duku
Abraham Kennedy wrote:
Tomb Ovaert wrote:
As has been mentioned, it is likely due to high/higher reprocessing yields in low/lower security space: I think in High Security space one could get a 75% yield, 78% in Lowsec and around 82% in Nullsec outpost.


Thanks for replying but why did you type high-er and low-er when higher and lower are the correct spelling of these words?




Well it may be a higher yield but not as high as it could be.


So: high / higher yield.

And: low / lower security space

I could be misreading but that's how I took it Cool
Tomb Ovaert
9B30FF Labs
#9 - 2015-08-03 14:15:55 UTC
Ore price puzzle resolved, another one emerges.

Mr Duku indeed saw correctly, as there are three places, where one could refine basic ores at, that differ distinctly in yield.
Abraham Kennedy
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-08-04 12:27:05 UTC
Good information. But it still does not explain the large gap. A guy is buying Scordite for $803,666 from me and if I reprocess it I can only earn $666,640 from sale of the minerals. (The batch size is 33,333.)
Tomb Ovaert
9B30FF Labs
#11 - 2015-08-04 14:43:06 UTC
Well, Scordite batch in an outpost is "worth" 2,895 ISK with Trit at 5 ISK and Pyer 10 ISK per unit. At the prices that you're selling, the price ends up being around 4.14 and 8.28, respectively.
Abraham Kennedy
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-08-04 20:47:57 UTC
The actual prices are 4.15 and 7.39.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2015-08-04 23:18:55 UTC
Abraham Kennedy wrote:
Good information. But it still does not explain the large gap. A guy is buying Scordite for $803,666 from me and if I reprocess it I can only earn $666,640 from sale of the minerals. (The batch size is 33,333.)


If they are compressing it to haul for supercapital building, they might very well be willing to overpay in order to reduce the number of jumps they need to haul a freighter full of compressed ore.

I know I will pay 3-4% more for goods that are where I want them just to avoid the risks of transporting them (granted, I do have a few more wars than many).

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2015-08-04 23:29:22 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
I know I will pay 3-4% more for goods that are where I want them ...

Location! Location! Location!

By far the most overpriced item on every market: shuttles! One can easily pay 10x or more than their manufacturing cost, if it is in the right location.

Usually also industrials and *************** [censored because I manufacture and sell a lot of those].
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#15 - 2015-08-05 00:14:59 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
I know I will pay 3-4% more for goods that are where I want them ...

Location! Location! Location!

By far the most overpriced item on every market: shuttles! One can easily pay 10x or more than their manufacturing cost, if it is in the right location.

Usually also industrials and *************** [censored because I manufacture and sell a lot of those].



You build interceptors?

I flip those a lot but don't build them much. Recently bought a lot of Taranis hulls at 15m and sold them at 21m which was nice.

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Tomb Ovaert
9B30FF Labs
#16 - 2015-08-05 08:21:37 UTC
Are supercapitals still a thing in an Aegis world?

I think most of the Highsec ores fall under Opportunity cost.