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I got podded again.

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Winning
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-08-02 16:35:05 UTC
Stat implants are too expensive 5x as much as the ships I use and are keeping me from engaging in the activities in eve I like.
And frankly, I don't understand why players don't get to produce them or why I can't insure them.

Also I'd like to be able to rig my ship's salvage to explode with a rig slot to prevent people from making money or recovering my modules. Bonus points if it would take out their ship or cripple them for an extended period of time.

You wonder why everyone is just mining in high sec? Implants cost too much.
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#2 - 2015-08-02 16:48:55 UTC
Use a jump clone. They are virtually free now.

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Winning
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-08-02 16:54:39 UTC
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:
Use a jump clone. They are virtually free now.


Yeah but that doesn't give me the opportunity to retaliate.
Combat lasts about 10 seconds in a T2 Covert Ops frig. You get to decloak to hack (stupid mechanic of all the thing you should be able to do cloaked...) they decloak 'get first attack' fire at you with an Astero (or multiple Asteros) and you explode.

They sometimes get the warp scram on your pod and you die.
It'd be nice to know that I could fit an 'incinerator' rig to my ship that would insure they got no profit from killing me and maybe take a same size ship out. I don't think it is unreasonable to booby trap ships, disguise them as other ships on scanners, etc.

You'd think a guy from code would appreciate the thought and endorse it.





Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-08-02 16:59:51 UTC
lol if you loosing ur podd in low sec to ships with out smart bommbs ur doing it wrong
Gorthanator
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-08-02 17:00:06 UTC
What do implants allow you to do in a T2 covert ops frig that you could not otherwise do?
Orlacc
#6 - 2015-08-02 17:04:05 UTC
Gorthanator wrote:
What do implants allow you to do in a T2 covert ops frig that you could not otherwise do?



Hack. Scan better. Other stuff.


However as someone who has explored for years, there are ways to not get popped. Maybe figure that out before whining.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-08-02 17:05:48 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD FlowingSpice
https://zkillboard.com/kill/48235738/

Lost and identical one 2days ago too.

Why do you need all 5 attribute implants? You really train int/mem and per/will and chras/will or whatever all same time?
If you just buy cheap implants and train according to remap you would train faster than your hap-hazard 100mill all attribute pods you realise correct?

Just buy +2s for 2 attributes and train those skills.

-snip-
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-08-02 17:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Buldath
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
lol if you loosing ur podd in low sec to ships with out smart bommbs ur doing it wrong


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#9 - 2015-08-02 18:21:28 UTC
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Red Galaxy
#10 - 2015-08-02 18:33:27 UTC
Winning wrote:
Implants cost too much.


Players set the market price. Working as intended.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#11 - 2015-08-02 18:47:11 UTC
Winning wrote:
they decloak 'get first attack' fire at you with an Astero


I hunt explorers in a sensor boosted Astero. If you are quick you can always get away (and plenty of my targets do.) An Astero has a targeting delay of about 5 seconds after decloaking, this is plenty of time for you to warp, you just need to react faster. Even if you do get caught, an Astero does not carry bubbles, so you should always be able to get your pod out.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2015-08-02 20:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Winning wrote:
Stat implants are too expensive 5x as much as the ships I use and are keeping me from engaging in the activities in eve I like.
And frankly, I don't understand why players don't get to produce them or why I can't insure them.

No, you're the one who arbitrarily chooses to not engage in certain activities and you're using your choice of implants to justify this choice. There are no implants in the game that inhibit any activity. If you want to engage in some activity, do so. If you don't, then don't try to shift the blame onto something else.

Also, players are the ones who produce them, and insuring them would defeat the purpose they have in the overall economy: to remove ISK from the game. As for your other ideas, they're essentially already in the game, but without the pathetic sour graps aspect.

Quote:
You wonder why everyone is just mining in high sec? Implants cost too much.
It's funny how sometimes two wrongs actually do make a right. These two claims are both false, and as a result, we have a situation where plenty of people fly around with implants in all kinds of dangerous environments — often sets that are far more costly than simple stat implants.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2015-08-02 20:46:37 UTC
Winning wrote:
implants cost too much.

No they don't.
Outside of null it's your fault they go boom.

Stop getting podded, so you don't have to replace them.

voetius
Grundrisse
#14 - 2015-08-02 20:48:46 UTC
Winning wrote:
Stat implants are too expensive 5x as much as the ships I use and are keeping me from engaging in the activities in eve I like.
And frankly, I don't understand why players don't get to produce them or why I can't insure them.

Also I'd like to be able to rig my ship's salvage to explode with a rig slot to prevent people from making money or recovering my modules. Bonus points if it would take out their ship or cripple them for an extended period of time.

You wonder why everyone is just mining in high sec? Implants cost too much.


You don't need to fit a full set of +5s. If you have a focused skill plan you can just put +5s in the primary and secondary.

As to whether implants are expensive, that is subjective. I lived in null for a year or more and always had a +4s in the primary and secondary attributes, though if I thought there was a high chance of getting podded I would hold off on a particular day. That didn't happen very often if at all. Sometimes I would ship down to a +4 in primary and +3 in secondary though.
sambo Inkura
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#15 - 2015-08-02 21:14:28 UTC  |  Edited by: sambo Inkura
You lost a pod of +4s? Cry me a river

The lesson here, my dear sweet friends: if you're going to fit your combat ceptor for <2s align, don't be half hearted about it! an MSE + Hardener and I'd have survived that danged Machariel.

Oh well......
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-08-02 21:17:02 UTC
I just use +3s... it's barely noticable training time difference. My 7 day skills take 3 hours more to train. Good heavens I lost 150 hours of training a -year-

Also tis been said. You only need to use + implants in the skills you are remapped for. I'm doing Perception/Willpower all day so that's all I use. A pair of +3's is like 20m


........ also a full set of +4's is muich cheaper than many of my ships........
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#17 - 2015-08-02 21:35:37 UTC
That's quite the Buzzard fit you're using there. Perhaps just a smidgen of tank in future?

Or, you know, any tank.... Prop mod? Rigs? Keeping an eye on D-Scan?

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Borascus
#18 - 2015-08-02 22:16:43 UTC
I think the lesson here is become risk averse.

imo, it's bad science.

Kudos for fiting them but you can put scanning / hacking implants in a jump clone with 10mil +3's and be in a much better position.

Use the jump clone book that facilitates a 20hr clone jump and lose out on those +5 implants for 20hrs.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-08-02 22:33:35 UTC
I think the lesson here is learn to manage risk.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#20 - 2015-08-02 22:43:23 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
I think the lesson here is learn to manage risk.

Or

Get your pod out.
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