Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would like to hear what you envisions the future of EVE. What we can expect in the future.... a carrot to the donkey.


My hopes of the future:

- A much more dynamic game that include the current NPC, but make them a much more visible, active and including part of the game. Where players can interact With them on a much larger scale than now. A NPC part that is a more active part of the hole New Eden, more visible non combat npc, npc's attacking other npc.... a NPC that behave more like players.

- NPC WARs that actually makes a impact on the human players, where "sansha" invades systems, camps gates, attack everything that moves.

- Make Exploration what Exploration really is... explore New systems, no gates, no structures, nothing

- Get WiS inplace, it wont hurt the game, it will give many players some more stuff to do and it will attract New players. A Place where players and npc can interact, gamble, drink and have a barfight :D

- A Corporation that functions like a Corporation, not just a unity of players (a unity is more a clan).... a corp has overhead, staff.

- Many diff. types of Corporations whcih gives small buffs to the choosen path

- Industry that function as industry, With overhead, staff, requires a Corporation.

- Flying into planets, moons and suns, result in a crash and rapid Death. Make planets landable.

- Mining, the large pain in the rear.... mining should be able to be done in many more ways than sit in a ships.

- Spacewalk, get into spacesuit, leave ur ship and enter structures thats not landable/dockable

- Let players interact, use, exploit, steal, sell, recycle, loot, adapt every little thing that exist within EVE

- Make EVE what the current and future view of human living and interaction is and could be.

There is quite a lot (forgive the altered quote, I tried to touch upon individual points without a huge quotestorm).
The whole leaving the ship idea though has been discussed to death & resurrection already, the drawbacks of time & distraction from the game currently, are way outweighing the merits.

Though NPC wars could be expanded on a large scale , as in npc corps randomly wardeccing other npc corps in opposing empires, if nothing else it'd probably shake up hisec.

So basically you want Eve to become star citizen....
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Not only are they 2 completely different games/genres, but it would take such a massive overhaul of the engine and code that they might as well just start from scratch and make a new game.

Why?
CCP has already stated that they are happy with a small game that stays as true as possible to the original vision.
That vision was a sandbox full of tools and play things that WE THE PLAYERS can make use of and create our own content.
We do not need more WoW or Star Citizen like features or game play options.
If you do not like EvE then walk away and leave it to those of us that enjoy it BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT.

As I have talked with the locals I player with of late.

The problem isn't content for players staying.
The problem right now is the start up overhead in skills.
I have posted other places and in the process of a longer dedicated post on my idea.
In short, to reduce the overhead on skills, CCP needs to merge a lot of skills, create more long-term specialized skills

T1 Gunnery/Missile skills should be linked. I.e one skill for small torrents, one skill for small missiles. Same treatment for medium, large etc.
T2 specialized skills should lose the small, medium, large and be merged by weapon class not size. I.e. One skill for Artillery specialization. One for Autocannons etc.
Balance the training times out to be fair. Add in some more specialized skills that maybe effect reload times or which ever effect could make the weapon better.

How I see it - a new player should be limited on what ship hull skill they have, not on what weapon skill they have.
So a new players starts off as Amarr. They train up in Amarr hulls and torrents and then they come to like projectile weapons. They should need to train Minnie ships, and ether no additional training for t1 projectiles or very little training for t1 if they already have torrents in equal size.

This action alone would remove months of training and overhead on all players, and it makes that massive new player wall look smaller.

And once again it all comes down to balance.

Amarisen honey, from a new players perspective EVE is gigantic and complicated spaceship game which they percive as a simulator. EVE does not simulate anything, the client only does to some extent.

Let's do an anaology that would suit EVE best - offspring. When you enter the game for the first time you are an infant and need all kinds help in all situations and you need to be tought things.

But here is the thing, everyone else was that very same infant with the same helplessness. As you grow and start walking and speaking and writing and reading and all this it takes time.

Whenever this comes up, it appears that you want a five year old hand out a drivers license and a college degree - what could possibly go wrong?

Now the following will happen, the car accident. Or imagine another five year old wants to fly that super cool airplane but he crashes into a mountain.

Our imaginary five year ols don't die here thanks to advances clone technology and resurrection hubs but they will get upset and cannot imagine how the grown ups can find this all exciting.

And imagine this, when I was that infant there were no guides, no explanation how things work and I aborted the tutorial only to find out that your missions are on a one week timer and you cannot do them again.

As I started walking I found many things out for myself and I still do find new things to discover even after nine years.

Is it really worth it to remove all your early achievements like 5% more speed for all ships or +5% more damage or less capacitor needs to initiate warp?

I don't think it is. You just have to tell the infants that EVE is not a level up thing and it will make you busy for ages to come.

real corps are here already here for first part.

The POS slave crews, their oveseers. Recruiters, the overseers of trials, trusted corp member who acts as trainers/evaluators of trials, the logistic (moving stiff aspect) staff. On the corp to make this as complex or as simple as desired basically.


For bonuses what are you having in mind? That is fair and not potentially game breaking? remember smart leadership works any bonus for all its worth.

Last point...already there. This is what my corp used to do when I could be assed to do indy work. Many smaller/one mans do this. Corporate hangars, corporate wallets....makes things much easier.

Also not sure about your staff needs. Rl says hi, and the rise of any small/one person companies. Often LLC'd (not say giant corp like Intel corp stuff but still a corporation of some kind). CCP tried making indy more communal. It resulted in a overcomplicated pile of crap not many used. While my bid was out for a set amount of time for someone to pick as some team I could have had put the jobs in myself and been on to something else. With CCP redoing focus on PE not ME...it was convenient this crap was removed. With the PE drive orders are off much faster. The team contract bidding tried out for a bit would have been more of a wtf, really? idea.

i think not about change but additions, some minor some not so much; but in general yes, the same game just with more added in, as someone who has played since early 2007 its a little hard for me to find new things to do which i havent actually done yet, and even shiptypes are limited by my standards (130sp and 8 years ingame tend to do that though)
I wouldnt mind seeing something done with the cosmos areas though, maybe add 4 more 'faction' areas, all around low and highsec (even spread) with the missions/plexes being a lot more difficult and dynamic.. maybe even having players from different factions face off each other? with missions centred around the burner variety.. but not so easy to read and put into google.. more dynamic :p

As someone else did, I will respond within the quote, since G-man left us quite a large pile of bad idea here.


Bottom line is, every assertion you've made here is wrong, and this is just another "EvE is dying because it isn't a theme park built for me" thread that needs locked.