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[Bond] 2b @ 10% weekly for 4 weeks - non collateralized [Closed]

Author
Charlie Drake
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-07-19 02:57:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Drake
This is my first bond, all constructive criticism is welcome


Bond details:


1 Bond - 2B isk (2.000.000.000) @ 10% interest paid weekly - only 1 bond available
Interest of 200m paid weekly on the same day the bond is bought
First payment 7 days after the bond is bought.
Bond duration is 4 weeks for a total interest payment of 800m isk (800.000.000)



For the buyer:

AttentionThis is a public bond, I will not accept private investors, confirmation is needed on the forums and follow up once the bond is over.

You are welcome to cash out your bond at anytime with these rules:

You will get 0% interest paid for the week from the time you request the cash out, this applies if there is 7 days or 1 hour untill next interest payment

If it comes to a cash out I reserve the right to take up to 48 hours to pay the isk back, although I guarantee that it will be done as soon as possible, the disclaimer is only if there are some extraordinary circumstances that would prevent me from liquefying enough isk.

I am open for a discussion, questions and ideas from the buyer at anytime I am online via ingame chat or voice chat or through eve-mail for when I am offline.




Additional information

-I am a returning player to eve after a just under 3 year brake from the game
-I took a break from the game due to a new job that required a lot of work, I still work there but I have a lot more free time now
-When I quit I sold all my characters for isk and donated it to my corporation at the time with a deal that they would help me buy a new char when I got back, the corporation got disbanded but I still had contact with some of the leadership which did help me purchase this new character as well as an alt who flies freighters
-My character is very recently purchased, I have been back in eve for 6 days now
-I had played the game since 2004 untill mid year 2011 with some breaks in between
-I will not release any information on my old characters
-I am open for some personal questions but within reason of course if there is anything more you want to know.



Why I need the Isk and why I am making a bond

Let me first say that I realize that this is a long shot, a recently bought character, no forum history, no bond history and no collateral, this has "scam" written all over it.

The only thing I can offer is the very high interest rate, although that is no guarantee it is hopefully worth the risk for someone.

My current business has been station trading and buying goods in bulk and hauling to the right trade hub for profit, I have a decent capital for this at the moment

I am interested in expanding my operation through production, I have found some very lucrative niches that I want to try out to increase my profits without cutting into my current trading capital.

Keep in mind that even if the venture fails I still make enough profits through trading to pay the bond, the bond interests and refund are not dependent on the production venture.

I might be interested in creating more bonds or possibly an IPO in the future depending on the opportunities I find for profit and I think this is a good starting point to show I am serious about what I offer.



Risks

There is no collateral, you will have to decide for your self to trust me or make an educated risk-reward evaluation

I get burned out, don't have time to play or something happens that prevents me from playing eve:
Although I find it very unlikely any of this will happen but in case it does the investment will be returned a long with all 800m interest the first chance I would have to log into eve.

I somehow loose so much isk that I would not be able to payback the investment:
I have a lot of systems in place for this not to happen, but if in the unlikely event it does, I would shell out for 3 plex to pay the investor back, keep in mind this would only happen at the end of the bond duration or if the investor wants to cash early where the cash out rules stated above would still apply.

I get hit by a bus:
Your investment would be lost, I do not have a way to return your isk in the case I die.



If you have read all the way to here and are still interested then I am available ingame for a chat for any further questions and of course I will reply here on the forums.

As stated at the top any constructive criticism is welcomed as well as ideas to improve the offer!

Thank you!

-Charlie Drake
okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
#2 - 2015-07-19 03:21:04 UTC
You all know already what am I going to say so I'll just add this: how about some mogul screenshots to prove that you even trade?
Charlie Drake
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-07-19 03:31:40 UTC
okoolos rimmer wrote:
You all know already what am I going to say so I'll just add this: how about some mogul screenshots to prove that you even trade?


Sure, I have not used mogul before so I am setting up an account there now, will see how it works and post some screenshots or if there is another way to show some proof.

I have been using programs: eve mentat and evernus for trading, maybe some screenshots from that would be ok ? otherwise I will post again once mogul has pulled info from my API key.
Charlie Drake
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-07-19 03:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Drake
Maybe I am giving too much info in these screenshots, I took out isk amounts in my wallet and from the grid but I left in how much was in sell and buy orders last pull, buy orders is ofc affected by margin trading and you cannot see my total isk from it since I have something liquid in my wallet atm.

the graph looks kinda weird since I have been transfering isk a lot between this char and my hauling alt in the last days, also keep in mind I just started using evernus and mentat just 3 or 2 days ago but started trading on wednsday.

This is from evernus:

http://imgur.com/a/QIJ5n

Will edit this post with info from mogul when the API pull happens so I dont spam the thread with replies


update: Mogul has pulled the API key but not updated profit yet, will check back in a few hours and post again in this reply.

update: the bond has been bought so I will not release any information from mogul unless requested by the buyer
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#5 - 2015-07-19 07:34:24 UTC
I LIKE IT!

ISK SENT!
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#6 - 2015-07-19 08:01:19 UTC
Why hide the ISK amounts? Do you really need 2b with the amount of ISK you've been throwing around on the character bazaar?
Charlie Drake
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-07-19 09:32:26 UTC
I LIKE IT wrote:
I LIKE IT!

ISK SENT!


Isk recieved, thank you, feel free to be in contact if there is anything during the bond!
Charlie Drake
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-07-19 09:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Drake
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Why hide the ISK amounts? Do you really need 2b with the amount of ISK you've been throwing around on the character bazaar?


I did hope I had explained this in the post, but I understand that it is a a lot of text, it was not my isk I was using on the character bazaar.

edit: Also I looked over the character posts, the previous owner was trying to buy characters with this character, maybe those are the posts you are looking at?

I can disclose that this character was bought for 5b isk and the hauling character for 5b isk, the character used to purchase those was: phew Artrald, however she has been biomassed since.

Again I might be releasing too much information, without it being needed but I feel like I have to prove my self since this is such a "scammy" post

you can find all posts by phew Artrald here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=search&postedby=phew+Artrald

I did recieve some starting capital a long with the 2 characters wich I have been using for trading, I currently have no assets outside of the trading, the hauler alt does not have a freighter for example.

Charlie Drake wrote:
-When I quit I sold all my characters for isk and donated it to my corporation at the time with a deal that they would help me buy a new char when I got back, the corporation got disbanded but I still had contact with some of the leadership which did help me purchase this new character as well as an alt who flies freighters


edit: Sorry I glanced over "why hide the isk amounts"

I did not feel it was needed to release that information on a public forum.

I´m fine with my investor knowing if he wishes.

But really I don't know what the standard is here, maybe you could explain, is it usual for people to show their total net worth on these bond requests ? I would have that in mind if I would want to make another one in the future.
Cista2
EVE Museum
#9 - 2015-07-19 10:05:35 UTC
Charlie Drake wrote:
I don't know what the standard is here, maybe you could explain, is it usual for people to show their total net worth on these bond requests ?

It is not usual for a first time bond to get filled at all, you have to jump some hoops. For instance, I would not demand a single investor if I were you, nobody wants to hold the risk all by himself on a high risk bond offering. Split it any way the investors want and it begins to look attractive (for some).

My channel: "Signatures" -

Amy Inhibenson
Living Off The Land
Intaki-Business Logistics Union
#10 - 2015-07-19 16:08:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Amy Inhibenson
So here's the problem. I'm going to say some real **** because I'm a very impulsive and stupid person and it costs me ISK but **** it, it's just a game at the end of the day.
2 billion is nothing. You can literally double ISK at this level in a week (conservative). All you need to do is station trade. It sucks but it's a stepping stone. If you prefer not to 0,01 isk because you actually have a life, then you can hub trade. You can double money literally weekly by this level. The list of traders who've gone from 0 ISK to 50b ISK is long... It''s tiime-consuming (couple of months). But by no means is it difficult. Red flag...

So here's the question. What kind of bullshit is this? :) Anybody who knows what they're doing would never waste their effort trying to get some investments when they know how quickly it can be made.

On the off chance that this is a serious request, I'll give you a friendly tip: learn how to trade. I can tell you exactly how it's done to get from 0 ISK to XXX Billion but I have no reason to because ... Why? There are high rollers here with trillions, and they aren't going to invest. Your ask is nothing to them. Do you know why?
Any real trader can see that you don't know what you're doing; there's no way you could ever pay back in case of a default.

I am sorry but I will not take this risk because I am not a gambler. Good luck in your new bed.
Charlie Drake
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-07-25 18:16:54 UTC
First interest payment of 200m Isk (200.000.000) transfered

Thank you and see you again next week!
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#12 - 2015-07-26 12:42:48 UTC
YEAH BABY!
Charlie Drake
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-08-02 07:09:39 UTC
The plan went way better than expected and I have been making great profits, due to this I have decided to cut the bond short.

2b Isk (2.000.000.000) in the bond returned
600m (600.000.000) remaining interest paid

total payment:: 2.6b (2.600.000.000)

total payment over the bond duration: 2.8b (2.800.000.000) as stated in the OP

Thank you!!
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#14 - 2015-08-02 09:01:40 UTC
EASY MONEY!