Missions & Complexes

If I recall correctly, way back in the day when Agents still had quality ratings, a great many level 4 missions and agents were stationed in low security space.
Likewise, the decent quality level 5 missions were there as well.
When they removed agent quality and rebalanced the missions is when they moved a great many level 4 agents into high sec and all of the level 5 agents into low sec. I don't even remember what year that was anymore... My memory gets fuzzy with age.

I'm pretty doubtful that they'll be moving level fives into high sec space to be honest. It just feels that they intend for them to be more hazardous for the participants, not only from the increased difficulty of the NPC's but also the potential for interference from the fellow man.

Incursions do seem to be the closest parallel to such a thing in high sec for now. I would like to see some tougher level 3 and 4 missions added in the future that would be unsolvable without using multiple pilots. I'm not talking about just more force, but requiring more sophisticated tactics and objectives that would be simply impossible for a single pilot. Something rewarding that would encourage cooperative play and whatnot.

I agree bring lvl 5 missions to highsec and let the carebears die for a change.

Well honestly I was hoping for an alternative to running lev 4 SOE missions with a little more added difficulty and payout. This is only an additional alternative in case my other more dangerous options don't work out.

you get 95k lp for most missions with my skills, 8m in rewards and whatever bounties you make, idk about isk/hr tbh

Silly silly idea. The rewards more than make up for the risk.

L5s would be a great (non-incursion) small group activity in high-sec provided you reduced the ISK payout by 25-50% and LP payout by 75-85% and restricted them to a handful (2-3) 0.5 systems in each Empire. You still have to grind the L5 standings to be eligible, and as they typically take longer (and you can't utilize capitals) they would probably yield income slightly above blitzing L4 SOE missions.

To those that counter low-sec is in dire need of content, nothing will redeem it from the desolate wasteland its inhabitants have turned it into. On the flip-side, I imagine griefing high-sec L5s by triggering NPC spawns would be mildly entertaining for some.

It's starting to get that way apparently. Also I notice some new groups going around scanning for MTUs and wrecking them in Apanake.

Um is that as in 95000 LP for ONE mission?? Can you give me an estimate on what you make in bounties per mission? I can't fly carriers but a couple of my alts can fly Rattlers @ max in about 3 more months, Paladins are too expensive, so can 2 RR domis do level 5's?

that's 95k lp per mission yes, I only use a single passive Rattle because most missions are neut tower heavy and have a lot of hp so so in, mjd away, drop depot and ignore neut towers. I do them for Federation Customs. on some missions if you clear al the rats you could get up to 30-35m bounties iirc. I don't salvage or loot but 1 mission can drop serpentis loot, Vindi bpc, which dropped yesterday for a corpie and apparently a 1.5b implant, but we haven't had it yet.

I'm not a big fan of moving some level 5 missions to hi-sec. but at the risk of forum bashing how about this?

Level 5s are offered in only a select group of systems that offer the "geographical" ability to meet the following criteria:

1) There is only a 1 out of 6 chance that an agent will offer a level 5 that will be run in a hi-sec system that a player can reach solely through hi-sec travel. This prohibits certain class of ships and, like current SOE level4 mission hubs, would probably be populated with plenty of people looking to score a bling fit ship kill, not to mention a high MTU attrition rate. This might also relieve the population/camping a bit in those SOE hubs. It should offer an increased amount of targets for those so inclined to hunt in hi-sec

2) There is a 2 out of 6 chance that the mission will spawn in a hi-sec island that is surrounded by lo-sec. This would encourage those who may want to venture out into parts of lo-sec for the first time, while offering a little NPC support when the mission runners start the actual mission. This would also allow players to ambush the mission runners to and from the mission areas in lo-sec, increasing the amount of PvP overall. The use of scouts and proper preparation work by the mission runner would be encouraged, while the PvP player would have an increased amount of targets of high value offered in lo-sec. Certain highly effective ships would be restricted because of hi-sec location of the mission itself.

3) There is a 3 out of 6 chance that the mission spawns in a lo-sec system.


By offering a reduced chance of a hi-sec only mission, the player is partially prevented from churning missions by the 4 hour delay after refusing a mission. As I previously stated, I'm not sure bringing level 5s into hi-sec is the best way to improve PvE content in EVE, but there is an obvious need to do something for the certainly sad shape it now is in. Something like the above proposal might drive more PvP, relieve congestion in SOE mission hubs, encourage players who have never ventured into lo-sec to give it a try, and just continue to improve EVE content by letting the players themselves create it. Anyway, just a thought or two.