Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Please fix the Nidhoggur. I love the versatility of logi, would love it on the scimitar but as a combat ship it suffers. Caldari and Amarr get better tanks and better capacitor. Please give the Nid cap so it can at least boost or remote transfer / repair and compete.

Autocannon optimals are terrible.
You usually rely on tracking enhancers and can't push much out of them. For mediums please make it 5km optimal so we can at least push that out a bit further if we want. (Same for blasters, give them some fall off that they can push.)

Artillery and rails need to be compared more closely.
(Example, Huge tank Tengu gets to sit further away with more range on optimals, hardly any difference in alpha, while the Loki needs to get to near on web range to be in optimals, which is terrible for a ship relying on speed tank.)

I think T2 logi frigates would be used more for remote sensor boosters than their cruiser counter parts as everyone who can fly a T2 cruiser logi is desperately needed to do repairs and tank as much as possible. The other alternative would be to make a high slot module for remote sensor boosting.


Of all the ship changes through the years, it is Cyclones that bother me the most. They gave it an extra low slot, which does help a great deal but in the process made it into a missle boat.

Why not both?

There is the key classic example:
-> Cyclone = shield + missiles
or
-> Hurricane = armour + projectiles

(Yeah, yeah, I know about shield canes and fly them myself but they really need to be backed up by logistics to be effective).

Can, we improve the Minmatar ships so that they are more versatile?

Examples

Cyclone
5 turrets hardpoints + 5 missile hardpoints
5% Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile Launcher rate of fire
and
5% Medium Projectile Turret damage / rate of fire.

It only has 7 high slots, so you are going to go for either projectiles or missiles due to the rest of the fit with tracking, damage, etc. Hurricane is still a better gun ship because it has 6 hard points and more low slots for damage and tracking.

Hurricane
6 hardpoints for both missiles and turrets
5% Medium Projectile Turret damage / rate of fire
and
5% Heavy and Assault Missile damage.

This gives it a bit more alpha and less damage per second per launcher than the cyclone. Again, people will stack either 6 of one or the other.

This would then open up

Cyclone = shield + missiles or projectiles
Hurricane = armour (shield) + missiles or projectiles.

Far more versatility. Now as to those cruisers *shudders* Not sure where to begin to make any of them really viable and newbie friendly for PVE.

Why do (all) ships need to be newbie friendly? Being a new player is the shortest period of your game time, a couple of weeks maybe. What about the months and years after that?

I think a FAR better bonus allocation would be giving the cyclone 7 unbonused turrets, and keeping the current bonuses intact. It would do less dps than the cane certainly, but would be acceptable. Another missile slot would be fine too i think.

This

One example:
Shield Rupture fleet / gang that are using artilleries for alpha strike. Fleet commander wants to be tankier to reduce headshots without putting the cost of a command ship on the field. It would be exactly the same missile boat OR it could be a projectile boat.

What nerf?
People having a choice on weapon types is a nerf now?

This thread clearly states that splitting weapon types is a stupid thing to do.
So you are either gimping your fit or you are not using one of the hull bonuses.
Which means that you have not stacked hull bonuses.

CCP made it clear that only navy variants will get the split weapon bonuses, so even if this was a good idea (which it is not) it is not going to happen.

And.
Or.

Hull says three bonuses.
Effectively two at a time.

T3s can equip for either launchers or turrets. Not a feature people are gnashing their teeth over.

Well at least you understand my motives.

Damage Control II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster x2
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II x2
Prop mod

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I

This is not a bad tank for small gangs.
A 6th mid slot would allow for a shield extender or a boost amplifier.

Mathematically speaking, it's 2.16666666667 skill bonuses.