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TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#1 - 2015-07-28 22:52:29 UTC
today intel announced they will start mass produce new revolutionary memory that is 1000x faster, this is good news for gamers because it will hit the market in 2016 https://intel-micron-webcast.intel.com/webcast

i only have one question, what does this mean for eve? Big smile
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-07-28 23:01:58 UTC
Probably very little since the bottleneck was coding and not hardware.
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-07-28 23:04:07 UTC
Guessing new motherboard gona be needed? So hole new system pretty much?
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2015-07-29 00:18:43 UTC
Moved to OOPE.

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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-07-29 01:52:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinete Jenius
Rowells wrote:
Probably very little since the bottleneck was coding and not hardware.

This.

We're not even using all the theoretical speed of current memory..


Intel has been hitting the solid state memory concept hard with research dollars. I expect this to end up in SSDs in the future.
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#6 - 2015-07-29 02:11:51 UTC
Yeah they'll probably use their upcoming V-NAND for cheap consumer drives and this X-Point stuff for expensive pro drives.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#7 - 2015-07-29 02:35:05 UTC
Is it just me, or does one guy sound really young?

As in, a good twenty younger than he looks.
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#8 - 2015-07-29 11:35:09 UTC
in they video they explain how gamers will benefit from this memory.

if i understand correctly our current processors are limited by the lack of fast memory in todays world, the faster the momory the more performance you will get out of your cpu. and i think we might need a new motherboard, i imagine the cpu's will get hot as sh**
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#9 - 2015-07-29 14:43:29 UTC
lets say 2 years from now most of us have upgraded to this new memory

* bigger solar systems?
* higher quality nebulas?
* higher quality ship texture?
* bigger fleetfights in null?
* ability to stream endlessly?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#10 - 2015-07-29 15:22:37 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
lets say 2 years from now most of us have upgraded to this new memory

* bigger solar systems?
* higher quality nebulas?
* higher quality ship texture?
* bigger fleetfights in null?
* ability to stream endlessly?

Higher PLEX cost.
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#11 - 2015-07-29 15:53:51 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
lets say 2 years from now most of us have upgraded to this new memory

* bigger solar systems?
* higher quality nebulas?
* higher quality ship texture?
* bigger fleetfights in null?
* ability to stream endlessly?


1) wont change the systems size is static for existing ones
2) not really going to matter for this my GPU isn't even stressed with the current quality
3) same as above for now
4) well the cluster might benefit a little but not going to matter much as its CPU bottlenecks afaik
5) not sure how RAM is going to help with that
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#12 - 2015-07-29 16:20:44 UTC
i think this tech is both temporary memory and storage, and i think it can store much more data.

i already forgot most of yesterdays 50 minute presentation, i really should have brought popcorn if i knew how entertaining it was gonna be
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-07-30 09:04:49 UTC
That will only result in hyped nerds facilitating the marketing move of the year without having the operating system that allows the usage of it. Like it has always been the story with memory.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#14 - 2015-07-30 10:41:10 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
That will only result in hyped nerds facilitating the marketing move of the year without having the operating system that allows the usage of it. Like it has always been the story with memory.
Well there's always Linux. Who had a 64 bit OS long before MS released theirs? Oh, you said nerds, not geeks.

So I guess this means 2nd-3rd world nations will gain a better foothold into the world of physics in regards to simulating wmd detonations for mass production Straight

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Velarra
#15 - 2015-07-30 14:00:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
This post reminds me. I've been writing about this here and there in relation to eve, but Ram Disks already, today, do otherworldly things to eve. Load times of everything imaginable are almost instant with the only wait times relative to server confirmations or the server sending information to the client.

Yes current SSDs are very nice. But i was not prepared for a fully optimized and configured ram disk and eve. At worst, you want as much ram available for it as you can cram onto a current day motherboard (no less than 32, 64 if you can manage it).

But once set up (with a say 24 gig ram disk, & eve's shared cache being loaded from it):

Travel times featuring waiting on gates, switching characters on multiple accounts (login time), are startlingly near-instant.

The general talk of faster ram from intel, and their NVME PCIE/m2 based drives over the next year are really exciting tbh. Even if, honestly, SSD's are completely respectable as far as performance needs of average computer users go. Where once you could gesture at platter based hard drives as being a little long in the tooth, - SSDs are perfectly adequate for all kinds of general use scenarios.

In closure, if this new ram/storage media from intel ends up in PCIE-slot based storage solutions for current day systems and perhaps a generation or two behind (as are SSD's), - it'll be awesome in 2016+. If it's only released to business/high end computing then it'll be unfortunate.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-08-02 00:36:53 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Gimme Sake wrote:
That will only result in hyped nerds facilitating the marketing move of the year without having the operating system that allows the usage of it. Like it has always been the story with memory.
Well there's always Linux. Who had a 64 bit OS long before MS released theirs? Oh, you said nerds, not geeks.

So I guess this means 2nd-3rd world nations will gain a better foothold into the world of physics in regards to simulating wmd detonations for mass production Straight



Nah that means you'll get a new windows version each 1 and a half year, like you get EA sports releases, which you will be forced to upgrade to, regardless if you needed, want it or not.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#17 - 2015-08-02 02:20:12 UTC
Velarra wrote:
The general talk of faster ram from intel, and their NVME PCIE/m2 based drives over the next year are really exciting tbh. Even if, honestly, SSD's are completely respectable as far as performance needs of average computer users go. Where once you could gesture at platter based hard drives as being a little long in the tooth, - SSDs are perfectly adequate for all kinds of general use scenarios.
Well SSD is a physical drive, where data isn't lost if power is disrupted in any way. I haven't looked deeply into the tech of this new memory yet, but likely I wouldn't be surprised if it benefits SSD development down the line. It's only a minor issue dealing with the drawbacks concerning ram drives of course, not implying anything really negative, they are very useful under the right conditions.

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