Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP you need to make that if people want to extract moon goo they need to own the sov in that system. With this you solved most of the problems any sov solution has, because it will become very worthy to own a sov. But if you gonna do it do it pls asap and not in 2 years when the new mining structure is done.

This change will make lowsec more unique and chaotic at the same time which is an excellent thing.

- Also earning isk in highsec need to be dropped down a lot. Incursions in highsec need to have only scout and vanguard sites with vanguard sites being less profitable.
- There should not be pirate faction (including SOE) lv4 missions in highsec at all
- The new exploration boost for highsec is also sick. All the escalations should lead to lowsec or 0.0
- Bigger taxes for industry and research

If those changes are introduced i'd be up for making highsec even more secure than it is now. Highsec needs to be a place where the new players will experiment with the game, gathering raw resources and trying out all or most of the existing mechanics.
But if you want high end stuff, big money go to lowsec, WH or nullsec.

Highsec as it is at the moment is killing the game both for the vets and the new players.

The risk vs reward philosophy it just is not in its place atm.

Maybe not to remove everything from HS but rewards should be significant lower then in LS (which is lower then null\wh)

1. highsec is safe enough.
2. We are not willing to sell our already meager ISK / hour for more safety because we dont need more safety.
3. If you cannot make a sick levels of income in null it isnt because you cant it is because you wont or worse you are incompetent. neither problems are justification for a game change.

Nah, it should be only available to the militia teams that control the system, I'm guessing that's what he meant. I'd agree with that--it would be interesting if your moon mining turned off when an opposing militia took your lowsec system. Furthermore, it'd force the tower owners to be in militia to moon mine, making the towers potentially more vulnerable.




I think the giant chasm between scout and vanguard payouts is absurd, and I'd go with saying vanguards should remain in highsec but be nerfed down to -60% payout and -33% incoming DPS. It's silly to see a bunch of well-skilled characters in shiny ships getting filthy rich off of safe highsec incursions while new-ish characters running level 4 missions in their battleship are still a long ways off from running vanguards and make FAR less income running missions.

I think missions should pay a lot less in highsec, with the pay reductions being a lot less significant the closer your agent is to the border of highsec. There should be a very significant increase in agent pay just crossing the border to lowsec, and you should see that when your highsec agent sends you to lowsec.

It'd be more logical to restrict PI in this way, not moon mining.

Moon mining involves an automated extractor wheras PI supposedly uses personell to do the dirty work. A moon mining unit is dinky compared to PI complexes that stretch half way around a planet.

Cue shrieks from moonbears...

Sure thing is that CCP needs to revisit the actual risk vs reward because it is broken in many places.