Market Discussions

This has puzzled me for some time but I typically only see things from a 0.01 ISK’ers point of view.

For me, there is only two reason not to 0.01 isk someone, they are;-

A. The market is so out of wack that few people are going to buy/sell at that price like Adaptive Invulnerability Field I’s selling for 10 million. I would bring them back to a ‘reasonable’ 500k.

B. A mission runner/miner/non trader puts in a sell order for a stack of stuff he does not like the buy order price set. (Yum, snap that up)

Here is what I think people may be thinking and why I think they are insane;-

1. They want to ‘push’ me and my kind out of the market.

My Answer: 0.01 ISK them, I hope you push hard because sooner or later I (or someone else) is going to spot it on eve-central and make a lot of isk off you. I will push you below the 1.5% mark to make sure.

2. They morally object to 0.01 ISK’ing.

My Answer: LOL, 0.01 ISK them, they are not going to last long.

3. They play the market to be annoying

My Answer: 0.01 ISK them, trust me, that seems far more annoying judging by the threads I read.

4. They are bad at math.

My Answer: 0.01 ISK them.

5. They think they are smart and are 10.01 ISK’ing.

My Answer: 0.01 ISK them, perhaps they will work out some day we actually know what they are upto and watch for it.

6. They misunderstood something at school and thought buy high sell low is actually a thing.

My Answer: 0.01 ISK them…..


So, yeah, I need educating, why do you NOT 0.01 ISK?

Because they don't care that much and know that there are people out there that do.

As difficult as it may be to imagine there are a multitude of reasons to not .01isk.

I believe the market is about to crash and I want to unload my stock.
I want to frustrate my competitors into not selling beneath my price.
I want to trick my competitors into selling at a lower price.
I'm only coming to jita(name your station) once per week and am less likely to be undercut if I undercut the ask by a large fraction.

There are many more reasons than I am willing to take the time to list here but all of these I have used strategically to my personal benefit.

Sorry, you misunderstand me, I was not clear.


I am not getting agitated, I am giggling all the way to the bank!


The behaviour perplexes me though, why undercut by 100 or 1,000 or 10,000? I (and others) will just 0.01 ISK you.


I sometimes think that they think they will buy/sell more items that way. In the end though, there is a fixed amount of any item that will sell in a given period regardless of what the prices is (within limits as I mentioned above) and that is it. The same goes for buying items. Heavily discounting or overpaying does not make more items available.


They are just making it easy for us 0.01 ISK'ers to get all their stock ;) .

oh my........let the fun begin

I as industrialist (actually building the stuff) pretty much only have the ISK investment of the production costs to worry about.

I have seen 0.01's do that to me on the market when i place things just below or even at their lowest sell order prices. Now what is funny is when i start dropping the price by 500k-5 million....they still keep dropping at .01

I dont place buy orders, i can build 100 destroyers at the cost of just under 100k, or some battlecruisers at the cost of 35 million for a stack of 10 of them and sell at 70-80 each, same with battleships, freighters, orcas, modules, and especially rigs.

And if i have enough stock of something i can destroy the market quite easily because of the nature of .01's
Like last November, talos were going for as much as 80-90 mill....when a 0.1 attempted to do his thing i just started dropping prices...i sold my last talos for about 70 mill when i was done.
The market however had dipped afterwards to avg 60-64 on buy orders and as low as 66 on avg in sell orders and di not recover till late Feb/early March to its former Nov pricing.

So I must ask, when you see this going on....why do you insist on 0.01ing the stuff when it becomes obvious your 0.01 does not affect me at all, ever?

*on side note* my CEO told me not to do that anymore, because we have the ability like every other serious indy guy to dump several categories.

ok understood, answers my open question. guess we are two sides of the same coin based on that answer.

Been engaging in it for 5 yrs now, but thats a moot point at any rate.

I think fact of the matter is, as long as the price is still higher than what you bought it for you're still making isk. If you want to put the effort in for a quick return on the stock then go for it. If you know the item will sell without .01'ing every 10min then why bother. You'll eventually get your requested sell price and won't lose sleep about it even if it takes an extra 6 hours.

I used to play the .01 game when I traded 2 years ago, but I think if I were to start trading again I'd do a less effort approach for supplemental isk. I can understand if your capital is low (<5-10bil) .01 isking would be enticing.

Ahhh, the air of smug superiority

I am not talking about every 10 minutes (though I do know that some like to play like that, more power to them, you are not 'better' than they are).

I am taking when you lower yourself to go check your orders like us mere mortals.