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Golem fit?

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BearJews
Order of Extrodinary Gentlemen
#21 - 2011-12-19 15:13:31 UTC
true, but for the skills i had to train and amount of time and the things the hull has got me in terms of isk is well worth the skill investment. I'm not saying it's optimal, but it does the job extremely well.
Jyla Kenij
Doomheim
#22 - 2011-12-19 17:24:15 UTC
I love the heated debates between CNR, Golem, Tengu, Nighthawk, etc.

Reminds me why I fly all of them and why I never bothered with turrets. Lol
stoicfaux
#23 - 2011-12-19 19:11:07 UTC
Jyla Kenij wrote:
I love the heated debates between CNR, Golem, Tengu, Nighthawk, etc.

Reminds me why I fly all of them and why I never bothered with turrets. Lol


I've missioned with the CNR, Golem and Tengu. Now I mission with the Vargur, the Machariel, the Cheetah, and sometimes the Tengu for old time's sake. Turrets > missiles. =/

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#24 - 2012-01-01 16:12:51 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Jyla Kenij wrote:
I love the heated debates between CNR, Golem, Tengu, Nighthawk, etc.

Reminds me why I fly all of them and why I never bothered with turrets. Lol


I've missioned with the CNR, Golem and Tengu. Now I mission with the Vargur, the Machariel, the Cheetah, and sometimes the Tengu for old time's sake. Turrets > missiles. =/



Well this kinda sounds like the route I wanna go down, have a Tengu planned in the next month and then have route from my CNR to a Golem but am dubious about the time spent doing this versus the reward at the end.

Would like to play in a Rokh soon as well so think I may train up my Turret support skills. Oh and I have a Gila I wanna pimp and maybe grab a Rattlesnake.... I love this game :)
Yuani Hito
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-01-01 18:00:33 UTC
Turrets are ****.

Drones are worse.

Tengu forever.
Mike712
Tenth Plague of Egypt
#26 - 2012-01-01 18:05:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike712
Yuani Hito wrote:
Turrets are ****.

Drones are worse.

Tengu forever.



Uh-huh

Tell that to my nightmare which can instantly vaporize 4 frigs with a single volley at anywhere between 30-100km and melt battleships with 3-4 volleys...

Tengu is actually pretty poop compared to some of the most powerful turret ships.

Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#27 - 2012-01-01 18:41:43 UTC
Mike712 wrote:
Yuani Hito wrote:
Turrets are ****.

Drones are worse.

Tengu forever.



Uh-huh

Tell that to my nightmare which can instantly vaporize 4 frigs with a single volley at anywhere between 30-100km and melt battleships with 3-4 volleys...

Tengu is actually pretty poop compared to some of the most powerful turret ships.



You are comparing a Battleship with a cruiser. Greeeat...

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Tanith YarnDemon
Hypernet Inc.
Umbrella Chemical Inc
#28 - 2012-01-01 19:11:13 UTC
Mike712 wrote:


Uh-huh

Tell that to my nightmare which can instantly vaporize 4 frigs with a single volley at anywhere between 30-100km and melt battleships with 3-4 volleys...

Tengu is actually pretty poop compared to some of the most powerful turret ships.



It's not. Tengu is hands down one of the best missionrunners there is if you want to min/max missions. The ONLY aspect the tengu is worse than the nightmare is killing lots of ships in a single spot. Few missions require you to actually do that, and the ones that do are rarely worth doing.

Blockade is exceptionally good of an example as to why the tengu is potent as a missionrunner. As for the nightmare it leaves me with a constant disappointment. It just performs really poorly compared to any other high-end missionship with few exceptions.

If however you don't really want to find the best possible income for any given mission, the nightmare is great as it can provide a stable and constant performance. If you like to just warp in, turn your guns on and keep shooting til everything is dead and then warp back. Or if you askew your statistics by only looking at the time from entering the mission to leaving it.
Chung Ju-yung
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-01-01 19:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Chung Ju-yung
I also preference the tengu simply because it's fast, can do any strategic blitzing quickly, and its ammo can be purchased cheaply just about anywhere. I have run missions in most regions of the game and none of them are totally absent scourge heavy missiles, most even have furies for a reasonable price. The mach chews up comparatively expensive projectile ammo in bulk to get similar results, with better complete times on "kill it all," missions. The nightmare can't match either ship on missions with gates unless you have a seriously pimped ds mwd fit and want to manage cap like a schizophrenic.

Of course there are missions where each shine and if you wanted to sit in one mission hub and complete each mission assigned the fastest way possible then the best bet would be to have them all around. However, I don't think that's how most of us operate.
stoicfaux
#30 - 2012-01-01 23:54:31 UTC
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:

Well this kinda sounds like the route I wanna go down, have a Tengu planned in the next month and then have route from my CNR to a Golem but am dubious about the time spent doing this versus the reward at the end.


IMO, the Golem isn't worth it. Get a Vargur instead. The Golem requires more training (Missile Projection and Missile Bombardment at V, for example, in order to eke out every last bit of range possible) and is slower in missions than the Vargur due to constant reloading (only 20 volleys versus the 120 volleys for 800mm ACs,) DPS loss to overkill, TP juggling, having to swap ammo due to range, juggling TPs, and having to always use drones to kill frigates (drones are sloooooow to kill with.)

The Tengu is a great high-sec mission runner because it is generally the quickest ship you can skill into that runs level 4s efficiently due to having really good DPS, 100km range, and a superb tank.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-01-02 11:01:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Kietay Ayari
Jyla Kenij wrote:
I love the heated debates between CNR, Golem, Tengu, Nighthawk, etc.

Reminds me why I fly all of them and why I never bothered with turrets. Lol


I also like listening to people talk about the best ships ever! We need more Tengu threads pleeeease.

Also on topic. If you want to a good Golem get ready to spend about 6b ISK. This is without a doubt the best golem fit you can possibly have.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14894933#lostLoadout

Edit > I dont know how to make links

Ferox #1

Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
#32 - 2012-01-02 14:19:58 UTC
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