EVE New Citizens Q&A

Now I'm advancing in my understanding of fittings thanks to all the answers here :D.

What I didn't quite grasp before was that "tiers within tiers" thing. It's not common in other games, there diferently named things usually mean diferent types of powers or enhancements, while " better modules" of the same kind have the same name with a Mk2 or something like that.

So you have Tech 1, Tech 2, etc and then, WITHIN the tech levels you have another tier, and that's the meta (yep, I know Tech 2 is meta 5 and so on, but still). So say the F85 is a better tech one damage control as it's meta 2 and even better are the pseudoelectron containment field and internal force field array (meta 3 and 4) until you get to Damage Control Unit II. Cool

I can get to the F85 atm due to prices skyrocketing from there. So you think is worth it dropping one Damage Drone amplifier to get the Power diagnostic Unit (we're talking Soe arc here). It must be noted that I have Drones @4 (so only 4 drones flying) and Light Drones @4 with no other drone skills learned or queued atm)

Oh man, I read your first post and my eyes skipped the "limited" on the invulnerability. Damn, I bought the wrong one. Well, time to fly again my Velator to Dodixie to sell this and buy the correct one. The limited adds a full minute to my capacitor, from 2:40 to 3:30 according to Pyfa.




That was my impression reading the posts before starting this thread. The answer here are not just "change this for that" but, informing where I have a doubt. As with almost everything in life I don't like the "push this button and then click here" kind of advices. I don't only want to know the "how" but also the "why".

I don't really agree with the above.

Destroyers can quite easily get under the guns of most battleships, the difference between 35 and 70 sig radius when comparing that to the sig resolution of medium and larger guns is pretty insignificant.

And they can quite as easily overwhelm frigate targets with short range weapons as they still use small sized weapons and often have tracking bonuses or have the slot layout to make it easier to kill smaller targets.

A tristan with low skills won't even come close to 100 dps, particularly as you will likely be using only 4 t1 drones at this point.

I did dagan with a catalyst with a full load of blasters using antimatter ammo and i literally did nothing except orbit 500 and F1 after I got in range.

looking at your fit i can make siome suggestions.

i believe the adaptive invuln field I uses more cpu than the limited adaptive invuln. its name may have changed but check it out might save u having to use the cpu rig.

also try to meta the damage control. psuedoelecton field is prolly too expensive for u but one of the other versions may save you fitting room

edit - taking a quick look the f85 peripheral damage control may be the one you want it saves u like 4 cpu

also the limited adaptive invuln is 6 less cpu i think

To make things more complicated, you can't always say Tech 2 is better in all situations. Example: The ancillary armor repairer when loaded with nanite paste actually repairs faster than the t2 armor repairer; without paste the t2 armor repairer repairs faster. However in a frigate fight, the fight is usually over before you run out of paste therefore the ancillary is usually better.

With regards to the SoE epic arc, your fit should be able to handle the majority of it with no problems, there are 2 missions towards the end that may give you trouble, Chasing Shadows and Our Man Dagan.

If you do find yourself struggling, put a shout out in local for help. You'll either get another newbie like yourself to team up with and perhaps help if they're also running the arc, or an older player who will roll up in a something ridiculous to give you a hand.

sometimes, newbros just get trolled.

Sadly that is true in every forum and coment section known to man all over the internet. Though that said some people are just looking for getting trolled if they haven't even bothered to search for the answer to their comments/questions before posting.

Glad this hasn't been my experience. Eve being a big and really old game I guess a lot of you are really tired of new people asking the same questions over and over and over again.



Thanks for that bit of info. I guess that explains the prices of some of the meta modules. The bit about the variations tab is most useful. I already knew the tab but didn't know you could compare them. I think the difficult part to this is the naming. If you only look at the market (being a new player) at first is difficult to get that for example "Basic Damage Control" "Interior Force Field Array" and "Pseudoelectron Containment Field" are all the "same" module in different "tiers", BDC being the basic version and the others being better meta versions of that.

It was for me at least, accustomed to other "space games" naming conventions where usually the better versions of a weapon or module are just called MkI, MkII, and so on. Pyfa and trying to fit this algos made it easier for me to understand, it "clicked". Sorting by "Module Market Group" and comparing you realize those are the same in better versions. The irony being that you have the same info in the market window inside the game (yeah I've always used the "detailed" version of the market window).

This is an overwhelming game with lots of info everywhere, sometimes getting something out of context helps you to understand it. :)

Of course, as the game isn't complex enough as it is... lol. That opens the path for more tactics though, and even more valid fits.

Organization wise.... well, you can do pretty complex things while other really simple and common things are impossible. Interface design has advanced A LOT and this game is pretty old. Guess it's really difficult if not impossible to change the behaviour of some concepts.