Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's almost like hundreds of players predicted that this would happen.

Content denial was the best way to win in Eve during Dominion Sov. Reinforce their things. Make them form up. Blue ball. Rinse and repeat until they stop forming. Then grind all the things.

It's pretty much the winning strategy for just about anything in Eve.

To the extent that Fozziesov allows that to continue, it will be a failure.

The whole point of the Entosis link was to give the offense the power to prevent the defender from simply docking up and ignoring a small roaming gang. Unfortunately, the offense still has the power to avoid the actual fight because they do not have to commit anything to the fight.

This is entirely right, however this post isn't about contested space which is likely to be taken.

I am talking in regards to troll ceptors, the idea that you can reinforce massive amounts of systems as an attacker, with no intention of taking the space. Its the nuisance, as an attacker, with no intention of fighting.

I fully agree you shouldn't hold space which you cant defend.

It would already fix it a bit when you restrain Entosis Links to Battlecruisers and Battleships and their T2 aquivalents only. This will make a sov-attack serious buisness to both sides.

For the idea of FozzieSov was to give sov tho those who actuialy have the military power and activity in the area to hold it, small roaming gangs like Ceptors and Nano-Cruisers are definately no military power to seriously hold sov and therefor just meta. Seriously you can't expect an alliance to ninja-form everytime a troll-ceptor goes suicide-entosing to drag a fleet out.

IMHO things are working somewhat as intended, although I will agree it's no fun that I am literally waiting for a ceptor to entosis something, only to miss him by a dozen meters because I don't have links. Why are you making me need links?

We could increase t1 entosis stront consumption, making the strontium consumption become another reason to use T2 entosis. But interceptors are still going to be able to carry enough stront to reinforce something.

Something that really jeeves me is when a system has like 1.6x multiplier and the third entosis cycle runs for 20 seconds and you have to sit there for 4 minutes 40 seconds. When there is no progress to be made, the entosis could allow you to instantly deactivate it.

But more seriously, increase the warmup cycle stront consumption for t1 entosis -- this would give trollceptors enough stront for to reinforce a node alone if only they are not driven off the grid. The balance between warmup and normal cycle would be quite uneven for this to work, because the ceptors should be able to reinforce even a medium-highish multiplier system without refuelling IF nobody shows up.

Interceptors were supposedly balanced back in the day to have smallish cargo holds. Now make them matter.

I'm not sure trollceptors are that overpowered.

If the goal to have a few people living in each system and using them, it is not trollceptors that are overpowered, its most of the current sov holders that are not adapted to the new system.

Currently, yes if you have 20 empty systems with low index, yes 20 ceptors can reinforce everything in no time. Now, if you have 20 systems with 2-3 people in each, with higher index, you can prevent the ceptors to effectively attack your sov easy.

But needing 3-4 units of stront per cycle instead of one would be a good idea anyway.

So it's creating fights, creating content. It's moving people to PvP instead of raking in ISK AFK ratting. Seems to be working...

Your definition of "fight" is too limited.

If trollcepters are not going to take anything then problem solved but if they are being used to test your resolve and you fail then working as intended, either way this idea isnt needed.

Sov holders having to defend against all challengers both small and large was the idea behind fozziesov. The large entities in the game brought this on themselves when they made informal agreements of non-aggression. If nulllsec had lived up to the dream of eve and fought and tried to eliminate their neighbors instad of making nullsec into 'landlords and farmers in space' then this would not have been necessary.

Small, poorly funded groups, having a chance to fight the big boys is what fozziesov us about and should be encouraged not artificially nerfed because it is actually working and you dont like it.

Ok let's say you do not defend what happens?
You loose SOV which you do not need.
If someone tries to move in you have a training exercise in blueballing and how to hunt ceptors with a carrier.

So much fun for both sides