Missions & Complexes

I did some incursion running back in the day, when they were new, fresh, and extremely lucrative, but none in the years since.
I have just resubscribed after a break and am looking at giving incursions a try again, probably before I dive back out to sov-nullsec and all those other changes.

I’ve done some searching (forums search facility fails for me) and chat-room stalking and am probably going to try align with Valhalla / Vanguard since they seem to be active and switched-on.

Have purchased a brand-new bowhead and already own the ship types on the lists of the groups I’ve looked at. What I am not entirely clear on is the modern-day relative merit of the various ships, and what gets used and prioritised in today’s incursion running fleets. I previously flew machariels and basilisks but now it looks like scimis are the (shield) logi-of-choice and that vindis are preferred over machs for BS DPS. I was planning to load a BS and a mixture of shield / armor logi into the bowhead and go join in … just I am not yet confident on what my priorities should be.

Skills and isk are not much of an issue. I have high level fitting / support skills, logi skills pretty much perfect in all modalities, and large weapon specialists and BSs are all 4s. I’m fine with armor or shield setups, altho prefer shield for PvE efforts. Prior to taking a break I was an established and experienced player so I have a few isk lying around in my wallet, and already have the ships and many of the high-end fittings that those shiny fleets look for.

Any / all advice would be welcome, yes even if it involves sex and travel. Are there any substantially better groups than Valhalla / Vanguard? Are basilisks really history? Would a vindi be preferable to a mach? Tell me more, tell me all … please :-)

Thanks. I think I will go find and dust off a vindi, and looks like I should drop a basi or two onto the hauler also.

my biggest problem with incursions was always figuring out which ship to fly. my second biggest problem was the travel plus wait time.

vindi easily has the most dps, but the lowest range, and the dank web bonus. mach has huge alpha at long ranges, but the lowest dps. where the nightmare has a lot of range, can quickly swap ammo to shoot at different ranges, with alpha and DPS somewhere in the middle.

I remember being in an ISN fleet a while back (like one of the two or three times I actually tried incursions) and we got crushed by a isboxer using a nightmare fleet. the coordinated alpha was too much to deal with.

hmmm, good points, thanks.

The mach-sniper comment has me wondering whether I have missed a wee small detail in the fittings. I just 'assumed' those high-slot guns were A/Cs, like I used on all my other PvE machs. Perhaps they're actually arties ... a completely different kettle of fish.

I will recheck that when i am next able to get ingame.

Hi Subs, welcome back.

It's good to see you here again. Hope you have a long and rewarding career doing Incursions.

Good luck and much success to you.




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I prefer using the nightmare. no ammo issues, i know you will use a bow head, I normally roll an alt in a orca, and if warp to me and ISN arn't running, it happens, you can put in a few LSE's and safely join the other pub fleets. Not sure you can do the same in a mach.
But that's just a bias to spiky things.. maybe :)

This is the smartest thing I have seen someone do in a while. Freighter haulers need to pay attention to this.