EVE General Discussion

heeey, this needs a bump after retracting what I stated on page three. I know, only mistake I've made of this type, but still worth mentioning out of my sincerity.

I'm not in CODE. no alts or any such thing. I don't mine and I only haul in lowsec fit ships. Never really spoke out against them nor for them since formed. But I'll tell you this, I completely remember the serious problems EVE had with bot miners. This is not only a problem for us, but for on-the-level miners as well. That is just a fact.

And as the result of CODE. do we hear of the problems with bot miners any longer? No. Really, N-O, no. So as much as people like to hack on CODE. and the tears they may attempt to extract (I understand the need for moral), bottom line is CODE. had done more for miniers, than miners have ever done for themselves. Just a fact. Competition for bots eliminated. Not CCP, not the other hated ones: gr goons hat goons, CODE. Period. End.

So fine, good work guys. What else could have been done? *shrugs* It's just realistic.

And if you were around back then, you would completely realize the truth of what I spoke. What did hulkageddon really achieve in the long run? nothing really. I can think of a number of ways to have curved these bots we had, but how did CCP ever manage the problem? Few bans, that was it, problem continued. That's all it is really, just like Richard Garriott original idea of UO, it needed to run off of player justice. This is the sandbox.

If i remember correctly, it was the removal of the use of the 3rd party program that had a greater effect on mining bots than code

You mean the imput multiplexing stuff which they allowed for years, right until some New Order Agent started to use them to gank with?

You mean the milkshake that brings all the boys to the yard?

I win.

Thanks. I knew you'd agree.

Very enlightened of you Drac. You are totally one of the most reasonable posters in this forum.

I don't have a horse in this race. I run L4 missions in hi-sec and properly fit and fly my ship (i.e. not AFK, not stupid). I burn everything into minerals and once I have a full Crane load, haul it to the nearest market. Never on auto-pilot, never AFK. I have always done this because what is the point of playing the game if you're not going to play the game.

I have mined asteroids in fleet ops in previous corps - in a Rohk fitted with Mining Lasers shooting jet cans out my back end for a hauler to pick up. Never lost a Rohk to a ganker.

With all of that being said, it pains me to borrow a line from the NRA. The best cure for bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. It seems though that a lot of the problem is in the way Crimewatch and GCC work. There are so many opportunities for new roles that are not being used. Escort services (no, not that kind of escort), bounty hunters, etc. Dropping a catalyst, warping off in your egg, docking up for 15 mins, and then reshipping another Catalyst seems catastrophically boring. Hyperdunking, or otherwise bumping a freighter, for an hour and a half also sounds boring.

But what if those on GCC couldn't dock or jump system for that 15 minutes? What if they couldn't reship in space for that 15 minutes? What if those they ganked or attempted to gank were given an opportunity for revenge, justice, or lols? I much rather have gfs in hi sec than what we have now. I would rather have freighter pilots and their escorts having an opportunity to vent their frustrations on the ganker's pod than have them coming here to whine more about how the big bad ganker exploded them and demanding that the community and CCP get behind them and change the game to suit only their playstyle.

Just my .02 ISK.

This thread has devolved beyond repair, from Trolling, off topic posts and other mean things said too one another.

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