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Covert Ops Changes/Feedback thread.

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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#41 - 2015-07-28 01:44:14 UTC
Suitonia wrote:
Specia1 K wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:

Speaking of the Astero, it trumps Cov Ops in pretty much every catagory. But if we look at the ship lines they're modelled off of: AFs and faction frigates, then we can see there's a disparity there.

The Astero is the faction frigate to the T2 Cov Ops, but it can kill cov ops 1v1 almost every time because of it's strengths. AFs can take faction frigates, Cov Ops should at least have a chance to take the faction Cov Ops ship.


No. Astero does not, nor will ever have the probing prowess of a cov-ops ship. Only a proper T3 can do that.
Astero is intended as an exploration ship, able to do combat sites. It is also 300% more expensive.


The Astero is fine IMO. It doesn't have the same capabilities as a Covert Ops does when fitted with a Expanded Probe Launcher. The Astero will struggle a lot with fitting with one while remaining combat viable. Covert Ops have a slight edge at scanning a bit faster than the Astero does when comparing Core Probe Launcher fits, that's perfectly acceptable.

What I want is a reason to use a Covert Ops over a Strategic Cruiser other than price.


Good points all around. IMO this is more about how ridiculously good T3s are and not a failing of covops frigates.

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Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2015-07-28 03:40:30 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
Good points all around. IMO this is more about how ridiculously good T3s are and not a failing of covops frigates.


Indeed, I can't fathom why CCP would have introduced T3C in the first place. They offer players a ship that obsoletes dozens of other ships, then act surprised when it does? I really don't get it. For all the talk out of CCP about wanting ship diversity, introducing or maintaining an exceedingly good multipurpose ship is not the way to go about diversity.

The way they went about destroyers was a much better system (if still a bit bumpy, the odds and ends of that are going to be worked out in the coming months).

Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#43 - 2015-07-28 05:09:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Catherine Laartii
I would actually like to see some of the combat usability from their t1 counterparts transferred over and expanded upon. Having a ship like that that can be turned into a passable (but underpowered) combat tackler would be ideal for blops fleets, and small-scale pvp in general. The Heron sees some usability in caldari FW as a limited-role pvp frig due to its preponderance of mid slots and high cpu. I would like to see something similiar with the Buzzard and Anathema, at the very least.

Example would be a drone bay (bonused for Helios with actual full drone bay would be pretty nice), same or better powergrid than t1, and better capacitor. An ideal situation would be a ship with 4 high slots that can be used for combat probing and tackling in either a small gang or larger fleet situation.
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