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Daddy Thundercock
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-07-18 18:18:11 UTC
So I'm posting here because it seems that CCP no longer monitors nor cares about the official Test Server rule violation thread on the test server. I say this because there has been absolutely zero response from them on that thread in bloody ages, additionally it seems no action is taken on the test server either.

It seems the only course of action we have is to be lucky enough to catch a helpful CCP or ISD on the test server and address the issues directly with them. It would be nice for everyone involved if I didn't have to do that though.

Since Aegis, the problem has only gotten 1000% worse. Now, because of the horribly disproportionate time it takes to reinforce vs actually do a capture event, people are reinforcing structures willy nilly all over the test server. All I can get done since Aegis is capture command nodes. Literally ALL I've done, why? because people can't read and follow test server rules and keep reinforcing my structures, and because CCP could give a crap less to actually enforce the rules on their test server so people can, ya know, actually test stuff in a fairly controlled environment. Right now, EVERY BLOODY STRUCTURE MY ALLIANCE OWNS IN ALL SYSTEMS ARE CONTESTED!!!!! This is not consensual and is DEFINITELY interfering with any useful testing that I may be able to do. With this many command nodes and structures reinforced, useful entosis testing is nearly impossible as well.

I'm guessing this means CCP is no longer interested in having the players test out new features, search for bugs, and overall help make eve online a better game. I hope this isn't the case and still hold out some hope, but honestly and lets' be realistic here, I'm not holding my breath either.

So, to start it would be nice if something could be done about the entosis griefing that is taking place en masse on the test server right now, without any consent (which is a rule violation - non consensual combat). Also, maybe make the reinforce time a bit more proportionate to the capture event time. I hardly think a griefer will want to spend an hour per structure reinforcing everything I own, vs 10 lousy minutes per structure, or even make the stuff invulnerable....or just start banning people for gods sake and actually live up to the threats on your own rule postings.

Either way, something needs to happen. Any useful testing of any kind, especially any that requires sov, is impossible unless you're testing having your sov structures being reinforced. This makes having a test server client a bit useless at the moment. I'm holding out a bit of hope, as I said, but I don't expect people to be testing much outside of combat in 6-C as long as griefers are able to run around reinforcing stuff with no consequence. This is bound to have a negative impact if people can't use the test server to test things because of griefers, and CCP not caring to enforce their own test server rules!
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#2 - 2015-07-18 21:22:15 UTC
got all my stations reinforced and captured supercap pos bashed and lost 5 nyx and 2 aeon. worst part is that they use even ibis/interceptor to flip the timers.

make entosis link limited to cruisers and bigger ship types maybe tactical destroyers should be able to use only that entosis
Minarete
Celestial Tomb
#3 - 2015-07-25 20:58:24 UTC
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I have to concur with the OP, SOV testing on SISI right now is impossible due to the rule breakers and lack of attention by CCP.
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Waste of my time even logging in to SISI for any sort of SOV matters any more when an Alliance can go through and drop a TCU in all systems in many regions they have never had any presence in can stop all testing of anyone else that does not break rules.


Max Croxford
Ethereal Legion
Ethereal Legion.
#4 - 2015-07-25 21:47:05 UTC
CCP stopped caring about the playerbase ages ago, didn't you get the memo?
Romana Erebus
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#5 - 2015-07-27 22:33:36 UTC
You should probably make less noise with a name like that. That's quite offensive and not appropriate. So please rage more about CCP not caring so you can end up as Gallente Citizen 242443355342Lol



Daddy Thundercock wrote:
So I'm posting here because it seems that CCP no longer monitors nor cares about the official Test Server rule violation thread on the test server. I say this because there has been absolutely zero response from them on that thread in bloody ages, additionally it seems no action is taken on the test server either.

It seems the only course of action we have is to be lucky enough to catch a helpful CCP or ISD on the test server and address the issues directly with them. It would be nice for everyone involved if I didn't have to do that though.

Since Aegis, the problem has only gotten 1000% worse. Now, because of the horribly disproportionate time it takes to reinforce vs actually do a capture event, people are reinforcing structures willy nilly all over the test server. All I can get done since Aegis is capture command nodes. Literally ALL I've done, why? because people can't read and follow test server rules and keep reinforcing my structures, and because CCP could give a crap less to actually enforce the rules on their test server so people can, ya know, actually test stuff in a fairly controlled environment. Right now, EVERY BLOODY STRUCTURE MY ALLIANCE OWNS IN ALL SYSTEMS ARE CONTESTED!!!!! This is not consensual and is DEFINITELY interfering with any useful testing that I may be able to do. With this many command nodes and structures reinforced, useful entosis testing is nearly impossible as well.

I'm guessing this means CCP is no longer interested in having the players test out new features, search for bugs, and overall help make eve online a better game. I hope this isn't the case and still hold out some hope, but honestly and lets' be realistic here, I'm not holding my breath either.

So, to start it would be nice if something could be done about the entosis griefing that is taking place en masse on the test server right now, without any consent (which is a rule violation - non consensual combat). Also, maybe make the reinforce time a bit more proportionate to the capture event time. I hardly think a griefer will want to spend an hour per structure reinforcing everything I own, vs 10 lousy minutes per structure, or even make the stuff invulnerable....or just start banning people for gods sake and actually live up to the threats on your own rule postings.

Either way, something needs to happen. Any useful testing of any kind, especially any that requires sov, is impossible unless you're testing having your sov structures being reinforced. This makes having a test server client a bit useless at the moment. I'm holding out a bit of hope, as I said, but I don't expect people to be testing much outside of combat in 6-C as long as griefers are able to run around reinforcing stuff with no consequence. This is bound to have a negative impact if people can't use the test server to test things because of griefers, and CCP not caring to enforce their own test server rules!

Romana Erebus
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#6 - 2015-07-27 22:34:42 UTC
You mean you cant build supers and stuff? Because the sov testing is on Duality dude. Or do you not read forums.


Minarete wrote:
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I have to concur with the OP, SOV testing on SISI right now is impossible due to the rule breakers and lack of attention by CCP.
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Waste of my time even logging in to SISI for any sort of SOV matters any more when an Alliance can go through and drop a TCU in all systems in many regions they have never had any presence in can stop all testing of anyone else that does not break rules.



Juan Mileghere
The Corporate Raiders
Safety.
#7 - 2015-07-30 20:19:16 UTC
Romana Erebus wrote:
You mean you cant build supers and stuff? Because the sov testing is on Duality dude. Or do you not read forums.


Minarete wrote:
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I have to concur with the OP, SOV testing on SISI right now is impossible due to the rule breakers and lack of attention by CCP.
.
Waste of my time even logging in to SISI for any sort of SOV matters any more when an Alliance can go through and drop a TCU in all systems in many regions they have never had any presence in can stop all testing of anyone else that does not break rules.




still usually CCP is cool with those who want to build supers on SiSi...
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#8 - 2015-07-30 22:53:29 UTC
there is problem reegarding this.

1. people reinforce fitting services in evry station they find
2. they reinforce poses outside combat zones
3. during moon mining tests people placed siphons even in lowsec far away from combat zones
4. they even reinforce towers in wspace .

singularity is nnnot testing server its just experimenting with disrupting tests methods. ccp dont care about that so we cant do anything . so you cant kill siphon outside 6c on your pos because its combat without consent . i cant retake system that was my supercap production system because new owner decided to mine in mackianw to boost indusry index .

ccp dont see the problem but problem really exsist building supers on sisi is no longer possible when people wreck your all jobs by flipping system ownership during your nyx being cooked.
problem with ccp is also they apply only three days ban on sisi for misbehaving . they dont giving permaments ebcause they need evry soul for masstests. face the fact that sisi is just butrned out. do sov tests on duality , less trolls there who wreck your stations and poses
Brent Anders
Project Pendragon
#9 - 2015-08-03 13:44:21 UTC
I don't see that much of a problem with "Marauding" Entosis Ships, since your system should have a full defence multiplier, so it'll take them a while to entosis your stuff, and even then, they'll need that same time for a node, where you can easily outcap them on nodes.

Another Story is the destruction of POSes, but then again, a fully fueled POS should give you enought time to rep it up again, and while your triage is running, use the time to file a report about the attack. Yet again if you caught them in the act, and they won't stop attacking even after you demanded it and quoted the rules.. i would say it should be a safe game to volley them off the field in a form of self defence.