Wormholes

You picked a tough one.

Coulda been worse though.

wallahi this is civil, friend :3

but it isn't a civilwar~

An interesting point, however, who is to say who was or wasn't part of a religion? We followed Bob after our own fashion previously.

If you are referring specifically to the Church of Bob, a specific organization, then I see where you are coming from. However, for example, the Nazarene Church is not the only church in Christianity and the other churches that are newer did not come from the Nazarenes. There is not necessarily a lineage, although there can be.

And there is nothing to say a whole new church could not spring up on its own. Splinter faction would imply what you are saying, and possibly not the best term to be used here, depending upon how you define the "original" religion. In the end, it doesn't really matter.

Prouentibus Bob, whether splinter or entirely new is still a "church" that follows Bob. Just as Jews, Muslims and Christians all follow God, even though they are each very different. I would say entire new religion might be closer as we are fundamentally different in at least one glaring aspect: You (or whoever) hold that Bob was originally a man that became a god, while we hold that Bob was always a god and furthermore is the Creator of New Eden. There are other very fundamental differences as well.

So, if a religion comes along later (like Christianity after Judaism and Islam) and has a god of the same name, are they guilty of "cultural appropriation?" What of other cults/religions of non-Abrahamic origin that still call their god God? All believe their god is the one true god and creator, yet their versions of god are all different, yet they share the same name generally (referred to as "God", although several also give him other names on top of that).

Those who originally coined the concept of Bob should not be worried that somehow credit is being stolen from them, as we are being clear that we coexist with the original, we just think it is not the truth. We are springboarding from the concept of a god of wormholes, commonly known as Bob thanks to those who were before us (and I would add that we see Bob not as god of wormholes but god of all hidden places and that New Eden itself is a hidden place with hidden places inside it). Very similar to RL. If they had not done such a good job of making the name Bob synonymous with the god of wormholes and an accepted part of the unofficial lore, then likely our god would have a different name. The original forefolk of the idea of Bob have done a wonderful thing in adding an interesting emergent aspect to the game as a whole. We have no desire to steal credit for that, nor would it be possible anyway. The fact that we kept Rob and Stan in our own story should be seen as a nod to the original concept and creators of the concept, as was intended by including them.

Seriously, it doesn't seem worth arguing about. We are not claiming ties to whatever you consider the original religion to be, we are just following the same (or possibly not, in many ways) deity. It is roleplay and adding another piece of story to New Eden. I don't think that adding a level of religious conflict is an uninteresting addition, and I think it opens up the possibility of even more content for players. It may not prove to be so, but there is at least that possibility. It is certainly a source of content for us, and we hope to grow it into content for other players outside of Prouentibus Bob if we can. Let's not forget that this is a game.

Wow. Such an insightful comment. Gonna take me some time to process...

over the years, weve had plenty of people trying to institutionalize bob and write stuff down

fortunately, bob is impervious to these efforts

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/institutionalize

Wow ... those fringe benefits tho ...

You already are a demon to some people.

http://i.imgur.com/bsZgXp5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rwT4RNY.png

http://i.imgur.com/RT2cFDN.png

round 2 tonight maybe... If they're streaming again~

I really need to start recording these or something...