Assembly Hall

Dear Council of Stellar Management,
Though I voted for some of you, but not all of you, or atleast I don't remember who I voted for anymore, I would like to bring this up to your attention so you may work with the developers on this.

Cyber bullying is happening here in this community every day, and there has been a few posts that talked about it here and there. But no action has been made. Maybe nobody knows what exactly Cyberbullying is, so here is a definition:

Source: http://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/what-is-it/index.html

What are the effects of bullying?

Source: http://www.stopbullying.gov/at-risk/effects/index.html

One of the biggest examples of Cyber bullying is the advertisement of it through social media and spreading it in the community through normal means (bios, chat rooms, forums, and etc...). An example of that is CODE.

Another is suicide ganks, as it specifically targets the weak (mostly unarmed), it is intentional, with the whole purpose of nothing but to bully the weaker player for their own personal enjoyment. And what comes after the gank is typically taunts and trolling. And there is no consequences for the bully, only the victim is penalized (losing a frigate by CONCORD isn't a huge consequence compare to the losses of the victim).

I do not expect players to play "nice" as that would be unrealistic as that would be like asking people to not troll this post. However, the CSM and Developers has a strong influence in this game, and with appropriate action could levitate much of the bullying going on around here and make the game enjoyable for everyone. Therefore I ask the CSM to look into this matter and hopefully come up with a solution, preferably something better than Mittani's statements back in 2012.

I respond thusly.

I respectfully suggest the OP might be playing the wrong game. Eve Online is a competitive PvP sandbox universe based on the constant destruction of player-built assets. Suicide ganking has been confirmed by CCP as an intended mechanic many times and it facilitates the destruction cycle. The game has explicitly been designed so your stuff is never 100% safe even in highsec.

As for other player behaviour, that is not a CSM matter. If you think someone is "cyberbullying" you, you should take that to your local law enforcement. Also, the EULA is crystal clear that real-life harassment and personal insults are not allowed, so you should make a petition to CCP if you experience that and they take that very seriously.

Regardless of your feelings on the matter, this view that ganking is bullying ( http://gankingisbullying.blogspot.com ) is plain wrong and devalues these terms and the experiences of real victims of cyberbullying. If you do not like Eve or the other players in it, I suggest you find a passtime more compatible with your sensibilities.

On the street it is assault and robbery

On the pitch it is a brilliant play that wins the game.

If you don't want to be tackled, stay off the football pitch.

HAHAHAHA, you really did not read the warning on the box did you....

Calling the exploding of spaceships in a game cyberbullying just to push your agenda for a safer highsec is disgusting and you know it! You should be ashamed! Stuff like this just dilutes the term and makes it even more difficult for the person who is an actual target of cyberbullying in the real world.

This topic should be locked, it is based on a obvious lie to push the OPs agenda.

I dunno, man, telling me to make a choice comes pretty close to cyber-bullying me. It's a slippery slope that ends up with me being entirely to blame if I fail-fit my ship, should I decide to keep playing. Hang on, you're one of that personal responsibility rabble, aren't you? CCP, please stop him posting - it's a form of enhanced interrogation when he keeps doing that.

OP I suggest reading all of CCP_Falcon's posts in the linked thread.

Ganking in hi sec is an absolutely intended and allowed part of the game. It is not bullying.


Posting screenshots on a public web page, of in game mail and private chat including in game identities, with or without the intent of belittling or antagonising might walk closer to the line. However as long as it stays in character it won't be seen by CCP as bullying or RL griefing.

This is Internet Spaceships. You're gonna get bullied, called names in locals and blown up on reddit if your loss was expensive. That's the way it is and it will never change.