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Ishukone-Raata Release [I-RED]: "Lai Dai Convoy Ambush"

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Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-07-25 16:09:44 UTC
Why should anyone even care about this?
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#22 - 2015-07-26 04:53:03 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Why should anyone even care about this?

Some of us are still burdened by those pesky "morals" that seem to inhabit our baseline brethren........ A curse, I know. Straight

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#23 - 2015-07-26 04:55:30 UTC
We are? I mean... we are.
Shun Makoto
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-07-26 05:12:28 UTC
The Caldari Independent Navy Reserve would also like to extend it's deepest condolences to the Lai Dai Corporation for it's losses. We stand with the Chief Executive Panel on their condemnation of this attack.

Kaalakiota-Kaatso Taokeruu Kaltiovon ArK. (Kalaakiota Business Research Corporation)

Head of Security

...................................

Kaalakiota Corporation

Patriot Faction

Ichinumi Tsukaya
Desi Beanz
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2015-07-26 15:02:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ichinumi Tsukaya
The Caldari people only stand to suffer from cooperating with or aiding the Empire as it feverishly rushes into Yomi by preparing confrontation with the Funayūrei at this time, which is much too soon.

As sad as it is that innocent workers who have left us, the attackers have done the State a service.
Lai Dai must be aware of the Empire's chosen path. Lai Dai now needs to avoid assisting the Empire as it swiftly traverses the road of self-inflicted devastation, if for no other reason than to protect its employees.

I only hope such a great Caldari corporation heeds this warning and ceases cooperation with the Amarr.
There is nothing the State and its people are limited to achieving, without the others.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2015-07-26 15:17:47 UTC
Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote:
The Caldari people only stand to suffer from cooperating with or aiding the Empire as it feverishly rushes into Yomi by preparing confrontation with the Funayūrei at this time, which is much too soon.

As sad as it is that innocent workers who have left us, the attackers have done the State a service.
Lai Dai must be aware of the Empire's chosen path. Lai Dai now needs to avoid assisting the Empire as it swiftly traverses the road of self-inflicted devastation, if for no other reason than to protect its employees.

I only hope such a great Caldari corporation heeds this warning and ceases cooperation with the Amarr.
There is nothing the State and its people are limited to achieving, without the others.



I do not see that the Caldari will suffer at all for their relationship with the Empire. I think we should also avoid using this tragedy as an excuse for another pointless, political debate.

Please remember that no Corporation exists in a vacuum. Corporations and the State need allies outside of political borders. I am happy to represent a people who cherish their friendship with the State and mourn the loss of these individuals with you.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#27 - 2015-07-26 15:51:51 UTC
We at Lai Dai Research Biomedical and Cybernetic are grieved by the loss of our friends and workmates in this attack.

To our kirjuunen: what we have all said in private need not be said here.

To our friends and allies of the Carthum Conglomerate and Empire: We deeply regret our failure to deliver the bonded goods and services as per our agreements. Our foreign sales department will be in contact with you shortly.

To our other well-wishers and friends: We thank you for your sympathy and support, and would like to ensure you that no interruptions in our medical or research services will result from this loss.

I would also like to celebrate the lives of our three kirjuunen lost in this tragedy:

Erijk Kitanno, EME Technician
Sanemas Rowara, EME Technician
Jitrich Kirlin, Customer Service Representative

May gentle winds guide them to the halls of their ancestors.

- Scherezad, Research Associate, LDRBC
Quattras Peione
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-07-26 21:02:33 UTC
I'm quite interested in the details of this Carthum engineering team that was killed in the attack. A design/development project manager, a logi specialist, a propulsion specialist, a particle physicist, and a test pilot. What project were they working on? While the Guardian is a Carthum vessel, I have my doubts that this is the original design/development team. And why were they bringing components to make an Amarrian logi cruiser from Caldari space?

The name of that particle physicist keeps nagging at me. I'm sure I've heard the name Seena Feydd somewhere, but GalNet searches have shown nothing.

Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione

No, I'm not that kind of doctor.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#29 - 2015-07-26 22:03:08 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
We are? I mean... we are.

Morals*


*tm

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#30 - 2015-07-26 23:37:01 UTC
An unidentified Caldari fleet....


only two words come to mind.

Tiberious Heth.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#31 - 2015-07-27 00:02:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
An unidentified Caldari fleet....


only two words come to mind.

Tiberious Heth.

Because we don't have enough F**king issues to worry about....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#32 - 2015-07-27 00:54:47 UTC
Quattras Peione wrote:
I'm quite interested in the details of this Carthum engineering team that was killed in the attack. A design/development project manager, a logi specialist, a propulsion specialist, a particle physicist, and a test pilot. What project were they working on? While the Guardian is a Carthum vessel, I have my doubts that this is the original design/development team. And why were they bringing components to make an Amarrian logi cruiser from Caldari space?


Here, let me give you a tin-foil hat... no no, go ahead, put it on. You'll want it.

The key may be in the ship they were traveling in. It's been identified as a Basilisk-class Logistics Cruiser, but let me ask you: when does a Basilisk operate alone?

It doesn't. Neither do the majority of Osprey configurations in service anywhere, other than the specialized Navy variant.

And why do you bring a test pilot for a shipment of parts for very well-understood and well-developed Logistics Cruisers?

So, if you want a conspiracy theory... ask yourself this:

Is there some variant of the Osprey hull that does something that no variant of the Augoror hull does right now?

Give you a hint: Starts with an 'E'. Ends with a 'tana'.

And who was behind its development?

Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

only two words come to mind.


Ding. Tibus Heth.

Sure, that may all be wild speculation and blank conjecture - cuz it is - but let it roll around the tinfoil for a while, see if it doesn't fit at least as well as 'Guristas travel deep into Amarr space to hit a Guardian Parts Convoy without even a thought of making off with the parts shipment'.
Orob Ninebands
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2015-07-27 04:52:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Orob Ninebands
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Just my two cents here: given the ships and firepower present on the field it would be fairly easy to render footage of the attack completely unrecoverable. If it persisted in a state that was both retrievable and appropriate to be issued to the press, it's fairly likely the either the attackers weren't terribly concerned about the possibility of being identified or they didn't have time to conduct a thorough sweep of the wreckage.


There is no reason to assume that the footage would have to be stored on some medium on board one of the ships. Remote recording and storage is a thing. Thousands upon thousands of years ago, before New Eden, mankind possessed such technology... It isn't a new concept by a long shot.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#34 - 2015-07-27 14:23:03 UTC
Oh, and Dr. Scherezad, I realize the Caldari Navy likely have their own personnel available to Lai Dai (as they've already demonstrated). That said, do feel free to let your corporate bigwigs know that if they want one of the most experienced Logistics pilots in the cluster to give their new toy a shakedown - without, of course, confirming or denying the existence of any such thing - I promise I won't steal it, damage it, or arrange for my alliance to do either.

Heck, if Lai Dai and Carthum really want its capabilities and performance tested, without any risk to their peronnel, and are willing to provide two of the completed hulls, I can even promise a full and thorough record and report of the ship's performance under actual combat conditions, and after a pre-determined period of time, the return of any hulls that survive the testing process. It will be far more thorough than the State or Empire are likely to subject it to.

Not that it exists, of course.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#35 - 2015-07-27 15:12:24 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Oh, and Dr. Scherezad, I realize the Caldari Navy likely have their own personnel available to Lai Dai (as they've already demonstrated). That said, do feel free to let your corporate bigwigs know that if they want one of the most experienced Logistics pilots in the cluster to give their new toy a shakedown - without, of course, confirming or denying the existence of any such thing - I promise I won't steal it, damage it, or arrange for my alliance to do either.

Heck, if Lai Dai and Carthum really want its capabilities and performance tested, without any risk to their peronnel, and are willing to provide two of the completed hulls, I can even promise a full and thorough record and report of the ship's performance under actual combat conditions, and after a pre-determined period of time, the return of any hulls that survive the testing process. It will be far more thorough than the State or Empire are likely to subject it to.

Not that it exists, of course.


Thank you! We have excellent lowsec and nullsec testing facilities at our disposal - I'm not employed anywhere near that sort of thing, mind you, but we do have these facilities. We also have some excellent test pilots within our own organization. LDPS has some top-tier pilots. We prefer to do these sorts of things internally, it reduces the chances of corporate espionage. But we appreciate your offer.
Ichinumi Tsukaya
Desi Beanz
Pandemic Horde
#36 - 2015-07-27 15:14:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ichinumi Tsukaya
Mr Mokk,

I wish I could return the kind sentiment. Jamyl Sarum may be the most powerful head of the Empire in many centuries, yet is losing control where it matters most. No rational thought can suggest a known, present force in the cluster can directly face the Funayūrei, or popularly, the 'Drifters', at this time and displaying raw fear on the same day of this tragedy that befell Lai Dai.

Sheer luck may have served the Empress well on a few occasions in the past, but I would not like to wager she is going to remain so lucky, especially as a wise and considered action would have been to detain and interrogate the captain, the vessel and the crew of that Gnosis, as opposed to flaunt her own weakness.

Have you considered if the Khanid will continue to prosper by supporting such a leader?
I can only hope Lai Dai will consider if trade with the Amarr is worth being dragged down with Jamyl Sarum in a premature conflict against the Funayūrei.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#37 - 2015-07-27 15:36:04 UTC
Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote:
I can only hope Lai Dai will consider if trade with the Amarr is worth being dragged down with Jamyl Sarum in a premature conflict against the Funayūrei.


We are bound by pledge and contract to trade with the Golden Throne.
None shall break our compact, be they drifter, be they drone.
Until our pledge, fulfilled, is found upon the Carthum shore,
No threat shall bar our labour, be it subterfuge or war.

Lai Dai makes good its promises.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#38 - 2015-07-27 15:44:43 UTC
I'm sure a contract re-negotiation isn't out of the question, once profit margins start becoming a little... thin. Lai Dai and the State in general tend to keep to their word, which is a reason I respect them. They don't tend to forget escape clauses for when self-preservation becomes an issue, which is another reason I respect them.

Should the Throne Worlds become less than stable, the Megacorps won't go down with them, that much is for certain.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if the State found a way to profit quite heavily should that happen. They're damn near Vherokior in their capacity to turn political situations into their trade favour.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#39 - 2015-07-27 16:02:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
They're damn near Vherokior in their capacity to turn political situations into their trade favour.


And the little fish has a knack for catchy poetry, to boot!
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#40 - 2015-07-27 16:22:34 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
They're damn near Vherokior in their capacity to turn political situations into their trade favour.


And the little fish has a knack for catchy poetry, to boot!

A little fish can swim through many nets
and passes sharks, to find what wealth it gets.

I'd rather be a fish than a shark.

And, Ms Del'thul - there's no harm in profit, is there? I honestly wonder whether the word means the same to us as it does to you.
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