EVE New Citizens Q&A

You are in a corp. What do they do? I am sure you can get more specific advise there.

Eve is a universe full of wonders. You can do mining when you want to relax and chat with people. Ships are:
venture - procurer - retriever - Orca with fleet of 3 hulks
You start in a frigate till you get skills to fly barge.
You fly well tanked mining barge - procurer untill you get enough player experience to survive in a mining barge.
After this you switch to retriever and mine in a safe spot / safe society. Occasionaly lose thise ship. You will harsdly ever lose procurer in high sec, but people tend to use retrievers cause they do not need to fly back to station to unload that often.
Maximum yield requires you to use mining command ship - Orca and a bunch of upgraded barges (called exhumers). You will need 4 accounts for that at least. One fly Orca, 3 fly most effective mining ship in the game - Hulk. It mines fast but do not have tank or cargo hold. So you constantly switching lasers and unload cargo into orca. Full time job. Almost no time to chat. Galley...

Special topic is Ice mining or gas mining. First requires to be very quick since in high sec there is very limited amount of Ice and it will be mined really quickly. Second is a wormhole activity. And here we comes to the exploration part:

Exploration as source of ISK income is very unstable and whole fun comes from the fact, that you never know what is in the loot. One day you find loot for 200 milions, next 6 days only garbage for 5-6 milions. Combination of explorer and miner can find real good job in wormhole corp and even in null. After recent change in sov. mechanics null corporations are looking for miners and combat signatures in null are considered as very good source of ISK.
Proper explorer ship is covert op frigate like Helios (exploration modules aka arrays require medium slots so buzzard can be also valid here), but you also can take a look at Stratios - combat ship, that is bonused for exploration and is able to run combat sites by its own.

Hi,

For exploration you just need one of the following T1 ships that have bonuses on scanning and hacking:

- Imicus (Gallente)
- Magnate (Amarr)
- Heron (Caldari)
- Probe (Minmatar)

It really doesn't matter which one you choose.
For scanning you need a "Core Probe Launcher" and for Hacking you need a "Data Analyzer" and/or "Relic Analyzer".
Just look at the Scanning 101 fit of the Imicus in Eve Uni.
Altough I never used/needed Salvagers and instead I highly recommend a cloaking device!

If you didn't do it already, do the career agent on exploration.

After you made a couple ISK and you gathered a little bit experience and SP you might consider using a Sisters of Eve ship or a T2 covert ops frigatte for exploration. For example an Astero or a Helios. (Astero doesn't need that much skills, but is more expensive).
As you did the Sisters of Eve epic arc you might have a couple LP with which you might be able to buy an Astero or an Astero BPC from the Sisters of Eve LP store. So you'd save the 70-80m ISK for buying one. Altough you SHOULDN'T use an Astero for your first exploration roams, because you will die at some time and you will die less frequent after you learn how to spot and escape danger early enough. (D-Scan !!).

You can find out the skills you need for the modules and ships mentioned above if you right-click -> Show Info on them and look at the "Requirements" tabsheet.

JohnnyPew makes exploration videos on youtube. You might find some video footage of what's awaiting you there.
(He doesn't do ONLY exploration videos, but he's got a couple of them)

I'm having much fun with exploration and it's also quite a good ISK source if you don't only do HighSec sites but also LowSec/WH and maybe NullSec sites. If you want any further advise or you still don't know what to do about exploration just message me ingame :)

Mining and Production might sound interesting (this has been my career path for the first 1,5 month probably) but it's mostly not THAT exctiting. Mining is probably the most boring thing you can do in eve. Altough many people like it because it's relaxing so just try it out and see for yourself.

For mining you first need a "Venture" and some basic "Mining Laser I". (As said above: you can see the required skills in the requirements-tabsheet of the ships/modules). After training "Mining frigatte" you might want to upgrade to mining barges. They can use Strip miners, they can hold more ore and they are more tanky. There are 3 mining barges which are specialized in different things.

- Procurer -> Tank
- Retriever -> Ore cargo capacity
- Covertor -> Best ore/minute ratio

Depending on where you're mining you might prefer a procurer. Because there are people who like to gank mining ships - even in HighSec (-> CODE). A tank-fitted procurer is probably tough enough to survive the dps before concord kicks the gankers ass and you will probably survive. All the other mining barges might be in some ways more efficient in doing what they're supposed to do but you're more likely to get blown up in them - so choose wisely.

If you're going full mining there are upgraded mining barges named exhumers. There's an upgraded version of every mining barge in this ship class. Those are quite a bit more expensive and are probably only viable for dedicated miners.
(Having learned the skills to fly mining barges might be good no matter what you want to do in the future.. Having the option to mine can't hurt).

In terms of industry I can't give you that much advice. For some basic production you don't need that much skills. But for T2/T3 production and Invention you need quite a set of skills which are quite expensive (the ISK for the books as well as time you need to train them). Also you need pretty good skills and (nearly) maxed BPOs and a lot of experience to really make profit off of production. You'll often find that the stuff you want to produce costs you (a lot) more than item is sold on the market.


FT Diomedes: Please don't be the guy that doesn't make sites despawn with just 1-2 worthless cans in them... At least blow them up or cancel the hacking game twice so they blow up. For other explorers it's really frustrating when they enter such a site. Also the site doesn't respawn anywhere else before some idiot clears the remaining ****** cans.

I want to correct something FT said about the explo fits. The expanded probe launcher, although it can use core probes, is meant to fit combat probes (for finding player ships and structures). You only need a core probe launcher, which uses a fraction of the cpu an expanded launcher requires, leaving space for other useful modules suxh as scanning upgrades.

Ultimately, yes, if you work in the same area regularly, it is in your own best interest to hack all the cans and make sites despawn and respawn. I often deliberately fail the cans I know are empty so they explode (cans explode after two failures).

With that said, if I am scanning inside a Wormhole, or with neutrals in local, I'm not going to stick around in a site any longer than I have to - identifying the one or two cans that are worth the risk is important in that situation.

If you want some danger, there is a cross between the two you could look at: gas harvesting. Gas sites are signatures that need to be scanned down and collected for manufacturing different things. Usually the manufacturing requires a POS setup which may be a little ahead of what you're looking at, but you can still sell the raw materials. The valuable gases spawn in low/null security space, or in wormholes, and are used for different kinds of manufacturing. Additionally, k-space gas spawn within a certain constellation, so if you live in the area around it, you don't have to go to far to find the sites. I'll leave the fun of researching to you.

Good news, by being a miner you get to fill the role of an autotroph like grass or moss in the EVE food chain. You're absolutely essential, but everything else will either eat or walk all over you.

Industry is a better goal by far.

Technically yes, industry is a better goal than simply being a miner and selling your load, by far imo. Though I don't do mining or industry here in EVE but usually pick up crafting in most mmo's as a side profession for extra income. I do recognize industry as being at a disadvantage for new players in EVE though, harder to get into since it's not easy to come by good BPO's any longer etc. Competition is fierce. Hard pressed if you want to succeed, I usually recommend getting out of highsec to do it. Contribute to a null corp or head into wormholes with a corp.

Exploration can be a better choice of what was mentioned, but as it stands, combat exploration. At least in that, you pick up combat pilot skills and don't just spend your EVE career being a defenseless target which has caused a many to ragequit. If someone just dislikes combat and rather just mine etc, then make sure you have a thick skin, you'll do alright.

And yes, expanded launchers are primarily for pvp combat.

Yay! You all absolutely rule! Thank you for your help! EVE rules!

If you venture into Low Sec or Null Sec, I recommend learning the microwarpdrive + cloak trick first. There are various videos and tutorials teaching you how to do it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5900974#post5900974

If/when you decide to take a shot at manufacturing, a general rule of thumb is to avoid making ships. Lots of people think they'll make a killing from ship manufacturing, however the market is saturated and net profits after expenses are often non-existent. Lots of new players make this mistake. Ship production is generally not financially viable for those new to industry.