EVE General Discussion

A hammerhead II has 480H 216A 120S and thats 816 without resists lets say 1200~ with resists with the 25% bonus from drone durability 5 thats 1350 x 5 = 6775 EHP per drone with something thats got a sig of 50m when its orbiting you at around 650~ m/s at 2km that ain't going down fast vs a Passive Recharge Gila at 36k~ EHP with a peek recharge of 380~ with a sig of 220m...

The sig is literately over 4x as big and vs all the drones with an EHP of 27100 combined EHP... yeah your better off taking down the Gila as the drones are faster and much smaller.

If you don't know what a small sig does for applied damage have you ever flown a guardian which has a much smaller amount of EHP than a say a T3 but a T2 fitted t3 isn't much more serviceable because its sig is much bigger than that of a Guardian and that isn't even a different of double.

Here is the actual results of the maths (I have it worked out including resists); a ship doing 500dps (fully applied against an Ogre II fielded by an Ishtar against the Ogre's weakest resist which are explosive or thermal) will take 7.2 seconds to kill. Multiply that by 11 drones and you get 79.2 seconds, or 1 minute 19.2 seconds before you start to hurt the Ishtars DPS.

Bear in mind that it is highly unlikely you will be applying your maximum dps as the drone user will be managing his drones and your guns or missiles will have a hard time applying their full dps to a small target.

Against sentries your looking at 15.4 seconds in the same scenario, and so 169.4 seconds in total before hurting its dps (although it is much easier to apply your damage against sentries)

No need to be so stupid. IF the ishtar-user has only ogres in bay.... too bad for him. Just kite him at 20km with nearly any cruiser. The ogres wont hit anything without scram and web. You have all the time you need to kill him. Or use a bc. Some can tank this damage with ease. Or fit 2 thermic hardeners when you know what the other is using. Or use an ewar ship on the ishtar, kill his drones. You now have all the time you need as new drones will not attack you. Etcetc.
I know its hard but at least try to use tactics. Just sitting at 0 without moving WILL get you killed.

You mean one or two possible cases where it could be bad?( ishtar and stratios) and even only if the bay is filled with large drones.
You perhaps have pvp experience in big battles. But not in very small ones

Even in small gangs a good smart bombing ship will fly out and intercept drones at they approach your gang.

To cool down a bit:
you were shown several possibilities to use ewar against drone ships. It's not a i-win button like against other ships, but still a viable option to use.

You know transversal is very effective against sentries (orbit the drones instead of the ships launching them) and that heavies are slow and very vulnerable to webs and being shot?

A hammerhead II has 480H 216A 120S and thats 816 without resists lets say 1200~ with resists with the 25% bonus from drone durability 5 thats 1500 x 5 = 7500 EHP per drone with something thats got a sig of 50m when its orbiting you at around 650~ m/s at 2km that ain't going down fast vs a Passive Recharge Gila at 36k~ EHP with a peek recharge of 380~ with a sig of 220m...

The sig is literately over 4x as big and vs all the drones with an EHP of 30k combined EHP... yeah your better off taking down the Gila as the drones are faster and much smaller.

If you don't know what a small sig does for applied damage have you ever flown a guardian which has a much smaller amount of EHP than a say a T3 but a T2 fitted t3 isn't much more serviceable because its sig is much bigger than that of a Guardian and that isn't even a different of double. And I'm talking if your in the same range as a T3 and a T3 is generally faster and more maneuverable than a Guard so actual survivable and its ability to orbit 1 spot and soak up damage is a lot different.