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Sojourn: Void

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#221 - 2015-07-13 20:44:41 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Then again, this is precisely what I was talking about before: memento mori. Nothing lives forever, not even us.

I don't think of myself as being particularly attached to my own existence, but I guess maybe I'm not much happier about getting my own transience vividly illustrated than the next so-called immortal.

Sometimes world of the dead is better than the world of the living.
Because only in death we unite with those whom we lost.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#222 - 2015-07-14 00:03:59 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
I will admit, I'm not exactly sure what else is required for success as a capsuleer other than a talent for destruction or providing for others the ability to do so. That has been my experience in the pod anyway. I have never felt otherwise that the only thing that others value in me is that I can be relied upon to prosecute violence without hesitation to ensure op success. I don't see what is required of me beyond that.

Well ... one quality that comes to mind is loyalty. That war you're preparing for ... you're not just fixing to step in on a random side, right?

I don't think you'd be very much relied upon if you weren't reliable.

Diana Kim wrote:
Sometimes world of the dead is better than the world of the living.
Because only in death we unite with those whom we lost.

If that's true, the only person I know there would still be getting over his shock at finding himself in the Achur afterlife. Arkon Sarain probably expected to go somewhere else.

... he might not be happy to see me, anyway.

The other people "I've" lost, I can't remember, and there's at least one I sent there personally, so....

I'm pretty okay with staying here.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#223 - 2015-07-14 02:18:22 UTC
Then you should be lucky and happy person, Ms. Jenneth.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#224 - 2015-07-14 03:54:44 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Then you should be lucky and happy person, Ms. Jenneth.

... I ... sort of think I am. I'm maybe not precisely carefree, but I don't really want the world's weight on my shoulders.

There's a lot of world, and not a lot of me.

Thank you, Ms. Kim.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#225 - 2015-07-14 13:22:21 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Well ... one quality that comes to mind is loyalty. That war you're preparing for ... you're not just fixing to step in on a random side, right?

I don't think you'd be very much relied upon if you weren't reliable.


I would say what is required of me now, and how I must act and operate differs greatly than when the drums will call me back to the Fatherland. How you or any other come to think of me or evaluate me are rendered inconsequential because we owe each other nothing beyond what is required to satisfy mutual self-interest and mutual advantage. There exists a difference between loyalty and reliability. I can be relied upon to prosecute violence and my talents for destruction in the interest of mutual advantage but my loyalty is not for others to command nor is it mine to give.

My loyalty is only to the vision of The Father, Mathias Sobaseki, and the manifest destiny of the Caldari people. If others doubt my resolve in defending that vision then that doubt is theirs to have. I would say my former husband also doubted my resolve in defending the vision of my Father and the legacy of Kaalakiota up until the point I put one round into his chest and one round into his head at Haatamo for his failure to do the same.


Kurilaivonen|Concern

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#226 - 2015-07-14 16:40:01 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Well ... one quality that comes to mind is loyalty. That war you're preparing for ... you're not just fixing to step in on a random side, right?

I don't think you'd be very much relied upon if you weren't reliable.


I would say what is required of me now, and how I must act and operate differs greatly than when the drums will call me back to the Fatherland. How you or any other come to think of me or evaluate me are rendered inconsequential because we owe each other nothing beyond what is required to satisfy mutual self-interest and mutual advantage. There exists a difference between loyalty and reliability. I can be relied upon to prosecute violence and my talents for destruction in the interest of mutual advantage but my loyalty is not for others to command nor is it mine to give.

My loyalty is only to the vision of The Father, Mathias Sobaseki, and the manifest destiny of the Caldari people. If others doubt my resolve in defending that vision then that doubt is theirs to have. I would say my former husband also doubted my resolve in defending the vision of my Father and the legacy of Kaalakiota up until the point I put one round into his chest and one round into his head at Haatamo for his failure to do the same.


I knew you stood for more than petty self-interest.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#227 - 2015-07-14 20:03:45 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
There exists a difference between loyalty and reliability. I can be relied upon to prosecute violence and my talents for destruction in the interest of mutual advantage but my loyalty is not for others to command nor is it mine to give.

Respectfully, Veiki, I was sort of taking the two together because I think maybe that your loyalty makes you more reliable. Being dependable and being willing to do anything aren't the same thing, and ... kind of seem opposed, really.

Your boundaries and goals are pretty well-defined. Compared to a wanderer who doesn't care much about nation states, money, or even most conventional ideas of "advantage," you seem like a dependable person.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#228 - 2015-07-16 04:07:37 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I knew you stood for more than petty self-interest.


I was born, bred, and trained to fulfill a life of purpose in the Special Tasks Group. My life has never, and never will be my own, for the measure of its worth is only in the pursuit of the greater good of the Caldari people as taught by The Father, and without whom I would not even exist. In my life I have been many things, and have been called many things because life is war, and war demands deception. I have had no qualms dragging my reputation through the mud just as much as to drag my body through the mud of trenches when objectives demanded it. I have survived being called traitor and worse because I have never betrayed my convictions and principles. Slander or vilification can do naught to me because I cannot betray myself.

My only self-interest is that when the black flags of the Kaalakiota Einsatzgruppen are raised once more I will be there to defend the vision of The Father against the enemies of the Fatherland with fanaticism and tenacity. My loyalty to The Father will always be all the honour I need.

Aria Jenneth wrote:
Respectfully, Veiki, I was sort of taking the two together because I think maybe that your loyalty makes you more reliable. Being dependable and being willing to do anything aren't the same thing, and ... kind of seem opposed, really.

Your boundaries and goals are pretty well-defined. Compared to a wanderer who doesn't care much about nation states, money, or even most conventional ideas of "advantage," you seem like a dependable person.


Is it a question of dependability and reliability or the personal goals and purpose to apply them towards?


Kurilaivonen|Concern

Vikarion
Doomheim
#229 - 2015-07-16 04:51:41 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

My loyalty is only to the vision of The Father, Mathias Sobaseki, and the manifest destiny of the Caldari people. If others doubt my resolve in defending that vision then that doubt is theirs to have.


Amen. And doubly so.

Whatever dabblings we may interest ourselves with, this calls us back, and rightfully so.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#230 - 2015-07-23 16:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Entry Twelve: The Long Crossing

Arriving in PY-RE, I kind of assumed I was stepping into a place of ... well, if not exactly darkness, then at least something coherently tribal, insular, inward-focused and uncaring towards the rest of the world.

I keep having to revise my understanding about that, and really it throws my whole idea of how capsuleer "dementia" works into question.

Actually, I'm starting to question whether it exists at all.

PY-RE, as an organization, is nominally linked to the Kaalakiota Caldari megacorporation, but it plays host to a lot of different sorts of people. I've seen it described as a kind of sanctuary for old, talented capsuleers, all united by common interest. It seems like it should function as a solid community unto itself, a tribal entity.

Only, it seems like everybody's waiting or preparing for something. We've got pilots from the Angel Cartel, whose Angel-ish-ness seems to be sort of on hold; Sansha's Nation pilots, not being very aggressively Sansha; we've got Caldari, we've got Minmatar, we've got Amarr, we've got Serpentis, we've got Sani ... there's probably a straight-up Gallentean around here somewhere.

And in the end, very few of us seem to expect to all end up on the same side, whatever comes.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin is apparently preparing for a war of extermination, which sounds a lot to me like "the end of the world." The Angels, as far as I can tell, are essentially here to sharpen their swords and prepare, albeit maybe not for anything so specific. So are most of the rest of us. Evi Polevhia and, maybe, the Sansha generally seem to be in it to help us capsuleers destroy each other more efficiently (so, very much the here and now), but eventually that tactic will either succeed or fail, and the relationship ends either way.

We don't talk much about the future.

I guess that's what "a void" is within this universe: a place between places, a nothingness, a gap between things. It's a gap we're all traversing, like some band of travelers on a long road through an ancient wilderness. At road's end, we'll have different parts to play, different niches in the world we'll be expected (and expect, ourselves) to fill, and that may make us all enemies again, but, for the moment, we're all just traveling companions.

I wonder whether the destinations we reach will be the ones any of us expect, though.

Also, I think somebody might have mislaid the map.

We're not a tribe. Becoming one of those would probably take a lot more time. But this is looking like it could be a really long road.
Jev North
Doomheim
#231 - 2015-07-23 17:22:24 UTC
It sounds like a metaphor for life itself.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#232 - 2015-07-23 19:00:35 UTC
Jev North wrote:
It sounds like a metaphor for life itself.

A traditional one, even, come to think of it. ... but it's pretty easy to apply in other places, too.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#233 - 2015-07-23 19:39:31 UTC
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity. Not an entity such as any you can conceive of, nor I; an entity more primordial than the elements themselves, yet constantly coming into existence even as it is destroyed. It is the Child of Chaos, the Pathway to the Next.
The darkness shall swallow the land, and in its wake there will follow a storm, as the appetite of nothing expands over the world.
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#234 - 2015-07-23 20:20:01 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity. Not an entity such as any you can conceive of, nor I; an entity more primordial than the elements themselves, yet constantly coming into existence even as it is destroyed. It is the Child of Chaos, the Pathway to the Next.
The darkness shall swallow the land, and in its wake there will follow a storm, as the appetite of nothing expands over the world.
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity.

... Okay, now I've got the shivers.

Thank you, suuolo. I think.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#235 - 2015-07-23 22:46:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
We are all, indeed, waiting for something. What those things are depends on the individual.

What am I waiting for? A simple life. But as long as there's need of pilots like me to jump into the pod, I'll keep doing that. For God, Empire, Throne, and maybe one day on the final day, peace.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#236 - 2015-07-23 23:53:57 UTC
I think you're quite right in your assessment Ms. Jenneth. It's why I once had to explain that I will find no friends within the company even though I am more than willing to work together. After all, in life there exists no such thing as a permanent friendship, only permanent interests.

It makes the business of potentially having to kill each other in the future easier when there isn't any emotional investment.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Arrendis
TK Corp
#237 - 2015-07-24 07:00:45 UTC
Ms. Jenneth;

I have been reading your accounts, and while your experiences and mine do not overlap much - or perhaps because of that - I found myself writing up what some might call rather overly-long thoughts on some of the matters you've touched on. I'll spare you most of those, I think, at least for now, to say simply this:

What you have now may not be a Tribe. It may not even be a Clan. But it seems to be something you can hold to, something that you can find yourself within. And that's what matters. Don't let them tell you different. No matter who 'they' are. Just like the rest of us, you'll find your way, even if it leads places you never thought you'd want to go.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#238 - 2015-07-24 08:15:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyn Farel
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity. Not an entity such as any you can conceive of, nor I; an entity more primordial than the elements themselves, yet constantly coming into existence even as it is destroyed. It is the Child of Chaos, the Pathway to the Next.
The darkness shall swallow the land, and in its wake there will follow a storm, as the appetite of nothing expands over the world.
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity.

... Okay, now I've got the shivers.

Thank you, suuolo. I think.


Uh, sorry...

It just occured to me that part of Macaper was a bit close to home for us capsuleers...
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#239 - 2015-07-24 11:22:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Nauplius
PY-RE. O how Wicked; O how Vile.

After the End of Days and the Judgement, I shall enjoy reading your "Sojurn: Hell". Only you will probably be too busy with the fire and the demons and the torture machines to write it. Perhaps I will inveigh upon God to offer you a few minutes of respite each day so that you can record that day's sufferings in your diary. God will be glorified in it.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#240 - 2015-07-24 12:05:12 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
PY-RE. O how Wicked; O how Vile.

After the End of Days and the Judgement, I shall enjoy reading your "Sojurn: Hell". Only you will probably be too busy with the fire and the demons and the torture machines to write it. Perhaps I will inveigh upon God to offer you a few minutes of respite each day so that you can record that day's sufferings in your diary. God will be glorified in it.



Well atleast this makes a change from the "rabble rabble murder slaves" heresy. Now, I guess it's my turn for this:

Also, Bawhawhawhawhaw.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"