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Alliance PVP statistics and rankings for H1 2015
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Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#21 - 2015-07-23 21:35:25 UTC
I agree with the per member idea. I feel certain alliances are punching way above their weight, while others are doing a whole different kind of "PvP".

Its gonna take some time to figure out whether I feel we're doing good or bad based on these tables.

Thank you for the work you put into this!
Duke Kincaid
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2015-07-23 23:08:32 UTC
What? We have an alliance?
Danmal
TYR.
Exodus.
#23 - 2015-07-24 03:32:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Danmal
Eli Apol wrote:
Danmal wrote:
Eli Apol wrote:
Suggestion: Divide all the total kills/losses and isk values by the average number of members in each alliance over the period.

If 10 000+ members are only getting 95000 kills and 1.34t, that's only 9 kills and 100 million (edit:fixed my math) per player over half a year - not that great a sign of pvp imho...


This is a great idea, but a little bit more complicated as I would have to tap a different data source (probably Dotlan). The number of members on zkillboard is current. Dividing past kills by current members would be problematic for the obvious reason that the number of current members could be very different from the number of past members that achieved the kills. To get that statistic really right, I would need to divide the kills per month by the average members per month and then take the average over the months.

As far as I can tell, Dotlan only provides this information in graphical form, and there is no mention of the data source, so they may be running their own database.

Yeah, I kinda wish the killboards actually did this for us - divided up the isk value of each kill amongst all the people whoring on the mails - perhaps by percentage of damage done.


That is also a great idea, but different from what was suggested above. If I understand you correctly, you want to eliminate the double-counting of kills for multiple alliances and assign points proportionally. Double-counting is one of the reasons why I find ships killed and ISK killed not very informative. Counting proportionally is a great idea, but as all things it has its own complications. First, it kind of complicates things, and second you would have to make a decision how you account for ewar or tackle (with no DPS) without which the kill might not have happened. Also, that is something that the killboards have discretion over not me. I am just using the data they provide. Smile
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#24 - 2015-07-24 11:46:59 UTC
Fascinating number crunching!

@lunettelulu7
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#25 - 2015-07-24 11:54:59 UTC
Couldn't have been on imgur?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Vincent R'lyeh
Screaming Hayabusa
#26 - 2015-07-24 18:05:37 UTC
Confirming Neo-Bushido movement officully most funnest Alliance in Eve to be a bittervet member of

I have deliberately developed an air of cynicism that I originally intended to make me appear somewhat louche and caddish but actually comes across as irritable hostility combined with the unspoken threat of sudden violence.....
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