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Zimmer Jones
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-07-22 21:23:35 UTC
Carriers, Dreads, titans. All ARE t1. your low skill carrier is covered not by the marauder, but the BS drone boats. Drones for your dps, sacrifice the damage mods for extra tank and there you go. only need BS1 and basic drone skills.

every other bit of OP's post is a "wouldn't it be nice" fantasy post. Cue the link to Shah's spaceship of awesomeness.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2015-07-22 21:28:14 UTC
Zimmer Jones wrote:
Cue the link to Shah's spaceship of awesomeness.



Shah's spaceship of awesomeness

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Not that Forumguy
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2015-07-23 06:56:43 UTC
Zimmer Jones wrote:
Carriers, Dreads, titans. All ARE t1. your low skill carrier is covered not by the marauder, but the BS drone boats. Drones for your dps, sacrifice the damage mods for extra tank and there you go. only need BS1 and basic drone skills.

every other bit of OP's post is a "wouldn't it be nice" fantasy post. Cue the link to Shah's spaceship of awesomeness.


because you people carn't see outside the square, all heads to far down in the sand, in the sandbox, people just want to give ideas to make the game better and all this community can do is sledge them, i could care more, but oh look Star citizen and thank the heavens for that.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2015-07-23 08:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Not that Forumguy wrote:
because you people carn't see outside the square, all heads to far down in the sand, in the sandbox, people just want to give ideas to make the game better and all this community can do is sledge them, i could care more, but oh look Star citizen and thank the heavens for that.

Lol, you propose absolutely horrible idea of a ship that would be outright better than a lot of things already existing at what they do and also capable of fending off multiple enemies. Somehow it is supposed to work even though those attackers will also fly these exact ships because hey, why wouldn't they? It's a lot less SP investment than many other, inferior ships!

But but only fighting defensively! Heh. And how are you going to enforce this rule? By focusing on tank instead of DPS? Carriers already do that and let me introduce you to slowcats. Besides, you said that this ship should be good at PvE. Being good at combat PvE means good DPS, bro. So, again, what is there to stop people using this ship for anything they do?

I mean, it's okay if you think it's "good for the game" to make EVE into "day 1 pwnmobiles Online" (although I wonder how many days it will take you to get bored), but you haven't even fleshed out your idea. So you want your ship to have shiny mode buttons to press (which you yourself don't know what they are supposed to do), capable of fighting back against idiots who bring force inadequate for the task and that it shouldn't be a long train. A lot of vague concepts and not a single "this is how you achieve it".

So enlighten us on what exactly this ship must be, I'm all ears.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-07-23 13:52:00 UTC
Not that Forumguy wrote:
Tech one or lower level entry, capital ships that also have bonus to pve / ratting, with strong defensive bonus, maybe bastion mode, and just enough adequate dps / stats for pve task. This is not something to avoid risk, but a way to fight defensively solo.


????????

No only pve-ship needed.

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Zimmer Jones
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-07-23 13:53:34 UTC
Not that Forumguy wrote:
Zimmer Jones wrote:
Carriers, Dreads, titans. All ARE t1. your low skill carrier is covered not by the marauder, but the BS drone boats. Drones for your dps, sacrifice the damage mods for extra tank and there you go. only need BS1 and basic drone skills.

every other bit of OP's post is a "wouldn't it be nice" fantasy post. Cue the link to Shah's spaceship of awesomeness.


because you people carn't see outside the square, all heads to far down in the sand, in the sandbox, people just want to give ideas to make the game better and all this community can do is sledge them, i could care more, but oh look Star citizen and thank the heavens for that.


Nice trollbait, but I'll bite. It's not a new idea, search function is your friend, Malcanis law

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=427256

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=389484

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=402245

other people have done your work for you, and more of it. you should have done your work and used the search function.

Use the force without consent and the court wont acquit you even if you are a card carryin', robe wearin' Jedi.
Not that Forumguy
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2015-07-23 18:05:51 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Not that Forumguy wrote:
because you people carn't see outside the square, all heads to far down in the sand, in the sandbox, people just want to give ideas to make the game better and all this community can do is sledge them, i could care more, but oh look Star citizen and thank the heavens for that.

Lol, you propose absolutely horrible idea of a ship that would be outright better than a lot of things already existing at what they do and also capable of fending off multiple enemies. Somehow it is supposed to work even though those attackers will also fly these exact ships because hey, why wouldn't they? It's a lot less SP investment than many other, inferior ships!

But but only fighting defensively! Heh. And how are you going to enforce this rule? By focusing on tank instead of DPS? Carriers already do that and let me introduce you to slowcats. Besides, you said that this ship should be good at PvE. Being good at combat PvE means good DPS, bro. So, again, what is there to stop people using this ship for anything they do?

I mean, it's okay if you think it's "good for the game" to make EVE into "day 1 pwnmobiles Online" (although I wonder how many days it will take you to get bored), but you haven't even fleshed out your idea. So you want your ship to have shiny mode buttons to press (which you yourself don't know what they are supposed to do), capable of fighting back against idiots who bring force inadequate for the task and that it shouldn't be a long train. A lot of vague concepts and not a single "this is how you achieve it".

So enlighten us on what exactly this ship must be, I'm all ears.


I'm not asking for anything overpowered, i just want to solo and enjoy the game without having spin my ship waiting for others to be around, its not fair to assume people you play with are going to be around 100% of the time, that is what this game assumes. i reason that a ship with defensive ability would do less damage then a ship like a HAC or above. but still have reasonable damage to do something like ratting ( self defense ). Also bear in mind this ship would be fit with modules for defense while pvp ships would be fit for attack. Even if others fly this ship they probably wont be using it to do attack because against each other it would takes along time to kill each other due to the defense focus of the ship making the ship un-attractive for that role.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#28 - 2015-07-23 19:25:14 UTC
Not that Forumguy wrote:
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Not that Forumguy wrote:
because you people carn't see outside the square, all heads to far down in the sand, in the sandbox, people just want to give ideas to make the game better and all this community can do is sledge them, i could care more, but oh look Star citizen and thank the heavens for that.

Lol, you propose absolutely horrible idea of a ship that would be outright better than a lot of things already existing at what they do and also capable of fending off multiple enemies. Somehow it is supposed to work even though those attackers will also fly these exact ships because hey, why wouldn't they? It's a lot less SP investment than many other, inferior ships!

But but only fighting defensively! Heh. And how are you going to enforce this rule? By focusing on tank instead of DPS? Carriers already do that and let me introduce you to slowcats. Besides, you said that this ship should be good at PvE. Being good at combat PvE means good DPS, bro. So, again, what is there to stop people using this ship for anything they do?

I mean, it's okay if you think it's "good for the game" to make EVE into "day 1 pwnmobiles Online" (although I wonder how many days it will take you to get bored), but you haven't even fleshed out your idea. So you want your ship to have shiny mode buttons to press (which you yourself don't know what they are supposed to do), capable of fighting back against idiots who bring force inadequate for the task and that it shouldn't be a long train. A lot of vague concepts and not a single "this is how you achieve it".

So enlighten us on what exactly this ship must be, I'm all ears.


I'm not asking for anything overpowered, i just want to solo and enjoy the game without having spin my ship waiting for others to be around, its not fair to assume people you play with are going to be around 100% of the time, that is what this game assumes. i reason that a ship with defensive ability would do less damage then a ship like a HAC or above. but still have reasonable damage to do something like ratting ( self defense ). Also bear in mind this ship would be fit with modules for defense while pvp ships would be fit for attack. Even if others fly this ship they probably wont be using it to do attack because against each other it would takes along time to kill each other due to the defense focus of the ship making the ship un-attractive for that role.

Train a marauder, put both it and a jump clone in highsec.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2015-07-23 20:56:53 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Train a marauder, put both it and a jump clone in highsec.

Well, if you are setting bear clone in hisec, you don't even need a marauder, at this point anything suitable will do.

As for topic, "I don't want OP ship, just one that doesn't give 2 f***s about people trying to attack me" is a case of doublethink IMO.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2015-07-23 21:44:18 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Train a marauder, put both it and a jump clone in highsec.

Well, if you are setting bear clone in hisec, you don't even need a marauder, at this point anything suitable will do.

As for topic, "I don't want OP ship, just one that doesn't give 2 f***s about people trying to attack me" is a case of doublethink IMO.

much good quack talker true

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