Crime & Punishment

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Don't worry, I see the irony. I'm no fan of F1 monkey activity which is why I supported changes like the drone assist changes and sov changes. Ideally I'd like to see every activity require every participant to think for themselves, but we're a long way off of that.

How many accounts is too many? I have 16 active at the mo.

Lol? Same could be said for the original comment and response. Why did he say "what's wrong with having a lot of accounts", then why did you make a point of him having more than you? That prompted me to wonder, "what's 'too many'". You need to calm down fella.

I see, still no need to get so hostile :p
My humblest apologies for responding to posts in a public thread. /bow

because carebears dont want to pay for protection because it affects the amount of isk they earn, i dont make any isk when doing pvp so whats your point?

if im moving a capital or a marauder around lowsec/null, i always have a cyno with support on standby, nothing stopping carebears from having support

you cant fit fitted battleships and carriers in jf's and not everyone has a jf so scouting for others in null is a thing.

you cant shoot first? gankers are -10 they are shoot on site everywhere

Yup. Escorts are boring, but a necessary cost if you want to move your stuff safely. If you don't want to bring escorts or can't convince someone to do it (i.e. you have no friends) then use a hauling ship that doesn't need them or outsource your hauling to someone who will spend the effort to defend your stuff.

That is the game for haulers. Trade-offs and all that. If you don't like the choices on offer, choose another profession.

Let's take the time (again) to reflect on the words of a CCP developer who made it quite clear what haulers are expected to do by the designers of this game:

You absolutely can, you just don't want to deal with the consequences the gankers deal with.

That should tell you something, but I'd bet cash money that it won't.




Once again, yes, you can. You just don't want to accept the consequences of doing so.

Gankers manage to shoot neutrals. I think what you meant to say is that you do not want to shoot the neutrals (the bumpers/scouts) because you do not want to suffer the consequences of that action. I guess criminals do suffer consequences for their actions after all.


There is plenty you can do. You just choose not to pay the cost. A small fleet of logi and quick-locking DPS/ECM can save any freighter and a single webber eliminates 99%+ of the risk of getting bumped in the first place. This has been hashed and rehashed so many times it isn't necessary again, but the main point is that haulers are suppose to be at risk. There are plenty of actions and behaviours you can take to mitigate those risks but CCP has chosen not to give you an I-get-out-of-PvP card to guarantee your safety. That is by design to keep players feeling uncertain and follows the nowhere-is-safe design of the game.

Almost every freighter makes it safely to its destination in highsec. A few unlucky/foolish ones are going to explode, but statistically, it is an insignificant fraction. A good hauler uses the tools available to increase the chance of being in that first group, but also plans for the chance they end up in the second, more exploded group - don't fly what you can't afford to lose and all.

Let's just say a lot of people (95%) don't take the basic precautions that could prevent 99% of losses.

The hauling profession is filled with arrogant entitlement, such as having five freighter alts and not a single webber, then complaining about losing three of them to ganks in the same day.