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Returning player - needs some advice

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Rykanator
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2015-07-15 10:20:13 UTC
Morning folks,

I logged in last night after a couple of years out. I've tried to find some posts regarding the current state of affairs but everything seems to be like a year old (mainly on reddit can't get onto the eve site when I'm at work)

I'm looking to move into a pocket of space where I can run some level 4's and do some 3/10 4/10 combat sites, I'm amarr/caldari skilled mainly with a little be of gelente, I'm probably going to go for caldari space I'm prob going to get a cerb for the scanning as I understand tengu's can't get in all of the sites.

However, what's the current king of level 4 missions - I'm not a huge fan of sentry drones if that comes into the equation at all

Thanks!
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#2 - 2015-07-15 13:43:12 UTC
Many / most of the higher level static sites 3/10 and up are gone from the game and oyu have to scan for them.
The static sites that are left in the game tend to be of the lower end variety mainly setup for newer low skills characters.

There is no such thing as a "king" of level 4 missions, although you will get some considerable argument on this point as everyone has a favorite and they will always tell you that sjhip / fit is the "king" of missions.

Up close and personal, long range sniper or something in between?
Turrets or missiles?
Shield or armor tank?
Low cost(ISK) or does it matter?
Do you have a preference for what race ships you fly?
Do you want to blitz, full clear and loot/salvage or something in between?
Do you use multiple accounts when running missions or a single?
Do you want cheap(ISK) or do you care?
Are you concerned about the ship you fly and how that affects your chances of being the target of a suicide gank?
Or do you prefer to fly what you like and not worry about it?
And the list goes on, so please help us to help you by giving us some answers and more information on what you like / want.

To give you something that resembles and answer to your question about "king" here goes.
All of the pirate and faction battleships make excellent mission runners.
Most of the T1 battleships can be excellent ships as well.
Some prefer speed and agility over traditional tanking so the T3's and the Ishtar are decent choices.
All 4 of the Marauders are excellent mission runners.


Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-07-15 14:06:10 UTC
There's a search option. Use it. This question has been done to death.
Johnathan Coffey
Niforce Triggers
#4 - 2015-07-16 15:31:38 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:

Turrets or missiles?
Shield or armor tank?
Low cost(ISK) or does it matter?
Do you have a preference for what race ships you fly?
Do you want to blitz, full clear and loot/salvage or something in between?
Do you use multiple accounts when running missions or a single?
Do you want cheap(ISK) or do you care?
Are you concerned about the ship you fly and how that affects your chances of being the target of a suicide gank?
Or do you prefer to fly what you like and not worry about it?

These are indeed the answers we need. Without knowing them, the only general advice I can give is: look at marauders, faction battleships and T3s.

First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING.

GordonO
BURN EDEN
#5 - 2015-07-16 19:37:18 UTC
Marauders are the king of lvl4's, if you plan to only have one, get a golem, the selectable damage is nothing to sneez at and use cruise missiles. With some rigors and a TP you will be able to blap even cruiser with fury, the new missile mods will help too.

Also look at a gila for you exploration, 4 x dda's gives your 2 x medium drones 650 dps, you have space for utility in the meds and highs. Active tanking it works like a charm. Stratios is a good choice too.
If you do use a cerb, you lose a missile slot for a probe launcher, you probably better of in a sacrilege.

... What next ??

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-07-17 04:17:27 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
There's a search option. Use it. This question has been done to death.

When I read this I thought I was in General Discussion sub-forum.

If you can't answer the question then don't bother posting a reply.



DMC
Rykanator
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2015-07-17 07:18:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Rykanator
Thanks for all the responses. I did try the search function but a lot of the posts were c18 months ago. As such, possibly outdated.

I always think missiles are the way to go for pve. Just for the selectable damage type and no cap requirements. Marauders are a little further off than I anticipated. I've looked at the gila seems a strong option! Is the tengu or legion not viable as I can fly both pretty well. (Just training up t2 hamls)

I'm pretty broke at the moment but I've got a bill or so floating on the market in sell orders presently and I've only got the one account as for blitzing. - what ever is most ISK efficient. Caldari or Amarr ships but living in Caldari space presently.

And lastly iro suicide gankers. I'm not worried about that - only fly what you can afford to loose....
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#8 - 2015-07-17 14:39:55 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
There's a search option. Use it. This question has been done to death.

When I read this I thought I was in General Discussion sub-forum.

If you can't answer the question then don't bother posting a reply.



DMC

My thoughts precisely. Post something constructive, report the post as redundant (without patting yourself on the back here in the topic) or simply go away and leave it alone.

Moving on, T3's can be effective mission ships especially if you want to blitz. If you are a full clear type then the T3 are workable but less than optimal because of their lower DPS and the shorter range of the heavy and heavy assault missiles.

Since you perfer missiles then I would say a cruise fit Golem is the best option to go for long term.
Short term think about a Navy Raven, Scorpion or even a standard Raven, al of them would be effective mission runners.

The GIla can be an effective mission runner but it has one major draw back, if you get webbed it will not have enough tank to hang in a pocket long so knowing your triggers and which ships in a mission can or will web / scram you and getting rid of them first would be a wise way to run missions if you choose to use one.

I neglected to post this, if you have it fine, if not this is very useful for mission runners.
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-07-21 08:34:32 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
There's a search option. Use it. This question has been done to death.

The thing that strikes me about posts like that is that the op already responded to it in the first few lines
Rykanator wrote:
I logged in last night after a couple of years out. I've tried to find some posts regarding the current state of affairs but everything seems to be like a year old (mainly on reddit can't get onto the eve site when I'm at work)
Tl dr? I really think some people just read the title and respond.

Anyway I have also been on a break, but it looks like t3 destroyers are the awesome, im training into the caldari and gallente ones now. You may or may not know marauders got a buffin the form of a bastion module giving, +30% resistances, +100% local reps, a range bonus and a MJD cycle role bonus iirc. They are the kings of level 4 now.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-07-22 00:28:30 UTC
Gila


for everything
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#11 - 2015-07-22 01:41:10 UTC
If your thinking
Missiles
Caldari
Lvl IV missions

I think you could go with a Navy Raven or a Rattlesnake and be just fine for cheap-ish.
"King" of level IV's is kind of subjective, depending who you ask.


Cruise missiles are probably better, since the last time you played.
Tengu just takes too long imo.

And yes, the question has been done to death, but the answers are almost always changing.
A current question for current game environment is not out of line.
Rykanator
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2015-07-23 06:39:23 UTC
Thanks for the responses. Spent most of my time doing exploration in a start so far but think I will end up skirling for a golem or a paladin sooner rather than later!