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Do jump clones no longer require standing?

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1 - 2015-07-21 20:43:02 UTC
I just went and created a jump clone on an alt in highsec then realised neither he, nor his corp have standings with the owner of the station. When did this change?

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#2 - 2015-07-21 20:48:35 UTC
afaik it didnt!?

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2015-07-21 20:51:35 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#4 - 2015-07-21 20:54:03 UTC
Just tested and installed jump clones at 2 stations where I have no corp standings. the first was a caldari station where I have over 8.0 faction standings, the second was a quafe company station where I have negative faction and no corp standings

interesting :D

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IcyMind Arierep
Elysian Technologies Enclave
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#5 - 2015-07-21 21:01:30 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Just tested and installed jump clones at 2 stations where I have no corp standings. the first was a caldari station where I have over 8.0 faction standings, the second was a quafe company station where I have negative faction and no corp standings

interesting :D



I think is a bug they have not fixed it yet. I think there was a thread about they were talking about it. I like that you should have standing for it, people should work for things they want , or maybe charge isk for the activiation service. I don't know ....

Jayne Fillon
#6 - 2015-07-21 21:04:20 UTC
This is a known bug. AFAIK you won't be punished for using it tho, so go nuts.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#7 - 2015-07-21 21:14:43 UTC
IcyMind Arierep wrote:
I think is a bug they have not fixed it yet. I think there was a thread about they were talking about it. I like that you should have standing for it, people should work for things they want , or maybe charge isk for the activiation service. I don't know ....


1. costs 100k to install a jump clone, although that is a rather trivial sum.
2. imo NPC standings are a completely useless mechanic. Most of the corps I can install jump clones with are because of storyline missions. if I wanted to grind out standings I could easily do it, but after a certain point it just doesn't make sense to do it, as you have so many options. and there aren't really any bonuses to high standings. It was kinda cool getting the 2 run cnr bpc for 9.9 caldari standings, but I would have made so much more isk not worrying about my faction standings. being able to decline undesirable missions is a far bigger benefit than a silly bpc.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2015-07-21 21:16:17 UTC
Jayne Fillon wrote:
This is a known bug. AFAIK you won't be punished for using it tho, so go nuts.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-07-21 21:19:10 UTC
Apparently I was using it without even realizing that something is wrong.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#10 - 2015-07-21 21:21:44 UTC
Yeah I don't care for it much. People just use the work-a-round anyway (jump clone service corp).

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#11 - 2015-07-21 22:11:21 UTC
Hope it stays that way. Dropping corp to install clones is silly. And grinding to 8.0 is utterly ridiculous.

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Scipio Artelius
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Flying Dangerous
#12 - 2015-07-21 22:23:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Zappity wrote:
Hope it stays that way. Dropping corp to install clones is silly. And grinding to 8.0 is utterly ridiculous.

There was a Reddit thread a few days ago where CCP mentioned they are currently discussing the issue internally about whether to patch it or leave it.

Pretty much everyone hopes it stays:

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-07-21 22:48:37 UTC
I cry every time CCP removes something related to having standings.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#14 - 2015-07-21 22:59:23 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
I cry every time CCP removes something related to having standings.

I cheer. I hate being forced to grind. PvE is not why I play.

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Freight Dee Kat
Sapphire Dragon Industries
#15 - 2015-07-22 01:39:14 UTC
Soon as I heard about this I got my alt a bunch of jump clones but honestly, I think they should make it something halfway between what it is now and what it used to be.

How about....4.0 standings required...

Easily obtainable but something a newbie won't have.

FDK
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#16 - 2015-07-22 02:35:57 UTC
CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#17 - 2015-07-22 02:42:48 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Hal Morsh wrote:
I cry every time CCP removes something related to having standings.

I cheer. I hate being forced to grind. PvE is not why I play.

And that's pretty much why. NPC stations, imo it would be better if a jump clone is possible as long as it's not in negative faction. Could even raise the cost of it for no or low standings - I'm sure any true Caldari would agree anyway Twisted Good for local bu$ine$$.

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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#18 - 2015-07-22 05:02:46 UTC
The amount of alts about to be logged in...

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2015-07-22 06:04:18 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it.


Retroactive sound decision making...works for me.

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Avvy
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-07-22 17:21:24 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it.


Retroactive sound decision making...works for me.




Works for me too, just got one. Not that I know how to use it yet.


Did occur to me though that if they wanted to they could easily delete all the new jump clones that are in stations where they don't have 8.0 standing.

Jump clones sound useful, but I really can't see me getting an 8 standing in high-sec.


So for me it would be better if they did away with the standing required.
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