Ships & Modules

Great at killing frigs, bad at reloading. It all balances out.

the smaller the weapon in the same class (dual 150mm railgun vs 250mm railgun for example) will have better tracking but less range and raw damage.

I would say that electron blasters on a thorax would have equal success killing frigates, however obviously not as far out as rapid lights are able to. Also of course theyre not limited by the reload time so not as consistent damage but you can go on for much longer.

It's because of how missile damage is calculated. Sig radius affects maximum damage output which means that battleship size missile weapons hit frigates for only a tiny fraction of the damage listed on your fitting screen. Turret users can use good piloting to do full damage and alpha smaller ships (see 1400mm arty or Large blasters). A large missile user (ie torpedoes/cruise missiles) will need to slow their target below explosion velocity using webs/screams and then use several target painters to blow up a frigate's sig radius past the explosion radius to do full damage.

That's why missiles have weapon systems dedicated to countering ships a size smaller than the hulls they are intended to be used on (Battleships with rapid heavies, cruisers with rapid lights.). These things also have some of longest reloads in the game.

Dont forget BC's... peeps seem to have forgotten in this era of cruisers that Batlecruisers will still wipe the floor with frigs... and i would argue better than the cruisers around today...

The critical point is neither tracking nor the magnitude of your damage. The reason cruisers are so dangerous for frigs is their obscenely high base speed (NOmen without prop outruns an AF without prop for example), which means that even once you caught a cruiser, he's just going to dictate range.

It's trivial to get under a BCs guns, it's trivial to engage and kill one in a T1 frigate (2rep tristan > gnosis for example), however engaging a fast moving cruiser that has an easy time tracking you by just flying into one distinct direction, that's an entirely different topic.

From my astero POV, there is not really any cruiser or bigger that can touch you short of a pimped orthrus, which you can even tank while staying at high speeds or moving in a straight line, and droneboats ever since CCP said *fast frigates outrunning med/hvy drone tracking is bad for this game* and turned all into drones online (and rlm hipsters).

missiles got that extra weapon type cause they got application which you cant change significantly
turrets, just use stasis webifiers, works even with battleships
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Hahahawtf is that!?

I sort of get it but ... actually no... no I don't.

What?

The only frig i am cautious of in a BC is a garmur and maybe linked worms. Since MJD 100km can still mean garmur can get point again. Any other frig or t3d and i can kill them in seconds. Hell, last night i brawled a flycatcher with 720s at 5-10km and killed him in 3 shots or so.

I killed every faction/pirate frig, AF, t3d etc in my BCs. You just have to fit for it. You cant make a uber tank drake with only a scram and then complain you cant hurt a frig. Put 2 webs, a TP (optional) and a medium neut on it though, and you can murder frigs with HAMs without much effort.

It may be trivial to get under a BC's guns when they dont fit neuts or webs. But for those who fit properly, no matter the frig, if youre out of cap, you cant scram, run your ab, TD etc. Meanwhile I can mwd away to get transversal while you sit there double webbed, and soon to be blapped by artillery.

This doesnt even touch on my nado with LARGE guns killing t3ds or frigs with almost no effort. Course 700dps does that.

Medium turrets use tracking speed to kill frigates.
Large turrets use range to kill frigates.

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