EVE General Discussion

You are not alone.

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What will someday "kill" EvE.

Because majority is just terribad, replacement numbers are not keeping up

So what you want is instant gratification. Level the playing field. Make it so somebody who has played for years, and trained for years, is at the same level as a new joiner two weeks in.

So... an Atron? Or a Griffin? Or a Merlin? Or a Condor? Or a Maulus? Or an Inquisitor?

Add on a couple more weeks and talk about cruisers like the Caracal or the Arbitrator or the Vexor.

You don't get your Steam achievements if you use the Cheat Mode.

OP, I WIN buttons are the suck.

Op, I too am upset that it takes 3 days out of the month doing pve boringness to plex my account.....and pay for my PvP....in blingy ships.

Well.....not that blingy......It may take 4 days for the real good stuff.

Depends on the PVE.

Exploration and messing with the rats in anomalies I enjoy, but security missions.. meh.
(I honestly prefer distribution missions for gaining standings, but only a few at a time.)

Getting real tired of seeing these thinly veiled "Waah Eve isn't giving me enough instant gratification, waaahh EFFORT, waahh USE OF BRAIN" threads.

T1 hulls are still strong, and have been for some time, Provi, Brave, Horde and the swarms of other entities that field T1/faction fleets on a daily basis (while going up against more experienced fleets that have better composition) would like to have a word with your ignorant self. T1 frigs can't do anything when up against a full T3/T2 fleet in the middle of a fight? Might want to start taking a look at your pilots, what you're putting them against, or maybe at yourself for thinking that you can just throw paper at a brick wall and expect to see results. Even when I say that, T1 frigs are no joke, they are very capable of punching above weight in small groups and even solo.

You're STILL crying about entry level for newer players, the entry level has never been lower! There has never been so many options for new players, lower SP/cheaper ships and fits have never been this strong! For crying out loud you can run 2 relic sites (sometimes even just 1) and come out with a T2 fit T1 cruiser. And don't even get me started about incursions, holy hell you drown in isk, the SP requirement is so low for what you go up against, how much isk you get compared to time and effort is ridiculous. A new player can focus his training into a standard low level incursion fit, proceed to drown in isk, all while having a starter set of skills trained up which directly carry over into pvp training, even while getting ample amounts of fleet experience which also carries over, you get your cake, you eat it, AND YOU GET SECONDS!

Also, inflation is a thing, so comparing isk from your early days, to isk that changes hands these days, means literally nothing. There are so many ways to make piles of isk as a new player, it's hilarious, have you seen the threads of reddit about newbro explorers making 100mil+ in the space of 1-2 hours? Have you read the stories of newer players starting up station trading, dunking 1 plex into their capital and coming out of a weekend with billions? Isk requires effort, nothing should change about that, so stop trying to make it easier than it already is.

Stop posting, for good. I don't even care if you didn't specifically say "we need more isk in less time" or "we need stronger entry level ships", because that seems to be one of the most common complaints coming from the same faces in General Discussion, from people like you.

If I understand this thread correctly - the OP is talking about how to successfully manage constant pvp process for the newbro with being able to make the isk flow big enough to cover possible losses.

But I don't see much of the problems here.

The sum of what the OP is raising as an issue is valid.

Something CCP needs to look at, is how Elite:Dangerous both incentivizes combat while softening the blow of ship losses, with better ship replacement insurance.

We as a community regularly denounce 'risk aversion', and new players struggle with ship replacement costs, while we ignore the elephant in the room -- a failed ship insurance model.

We can do better.

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