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[Amarr] Empress Jamyl Sarum's Appearance and Blessing
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Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#41 - 2015-07-20 11:38:10 UTC
Haruchai Khan wrote:
Statement from the Republic Fleet Diplomatic Mission

"No assurances or communications from the Empire have been received in regard to the recent speech of Empress Jamyl announcing new warships. No diplomatic context has been forthcoming despite efforts to contact the various missions.

The Republic Fleet, on instruction from the Tribal Council, hereby announces that comparable technologies will be incorporated into a new class of Fleet Battleship in order to maintain a balance of power in the cluster. The Sanmatar has called on the other races of New Eden to announce similar measures so that Imperial ambition may be curbed by reality.

In addition, The Tribal Council has instructed that the Empire Threat Index be raised two levels to Imminent. Military preparations consistent with this heightened threat level are being implemented with immediate effect. This includes the Republic Fleet withdrawing the policing action taken to curb the frontline Militias from excessive activities in the disputed territories.

These announcements are made with regret. Whilst the Amarr Empire maintains - through a hardline reading of the doctrine of Reclaiming - this stance of permanent aggressive war towards all Peoples of the Cluster, it has made the pursuit of peace a complex matter. Once again the Empire has demonstrated its disregard for the rights of others by developing weapons of war that cannot be explained away as anything other than that aggression made material.

It is regrettable that the advances of the Pakhshi Peace Conferences have been so carelessly ignored, and that the contributions of the Amarr delegations have been shown to be mere misdirection. The Republic Fleet stands ready to defend our borders against any and all aggressors."

Statement Ends. No Questions will be taken at this time.


Would you mind presenting your credentials as an official spokesman of the official Republic Fleet and not a capsuleer corporation named conveniently?

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#42 - 2015-07-20 12:01:09 UTC
It's a bit odd to watch these threads inevitably descend into "You started it!" "Nuh uh!" "Yuh huh!" albeit a bit more verbosely. In the end it doesn't matter. What is, is. This fight can only end with either the complete destruction of at least one of the sides or the release of our people.

There really is very little to discuss on that matter, so we will remain locked in war - officially or unofficially - either for perpetuity or until something rather major changes in New Eden. Peace is extremely unlikely and it's time we all started making peace with that fact.
Hendar Attor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2015-07-20 14:50:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Hendar Attor
In the grim darkness of New Eden, there is only war?
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#44 - 2015-07-20 15:01:02 UTC
Haruchai Khan wrote:
The Republic Fleet stands ready to defend our borders against any and all aggressors.


You are the aggressors in this war.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#45 - 2015-07-20 15:15:23 UTC
Let me cut the next couple of pages short:

Nuh-uh!

Yu-huh!

Nuh-uh!

Yu-huh!

Did I miss anything?
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#46 - 2015-07-20 15:18:52 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:

There was a peace treaty. The old war was over.

But if you really want to go back to ancient history, the Matari were the original aggressors when the sinned against God.


Roll
Prove that your so-called god exists and that we "sinned" against it. Idiot.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2015-07-20 15:26:52 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Let me cut the next couple of pages short:

Nuh-uh!

Yu-huh!

Nuh-uh!

Yu-huh!

Did I miss anything?


'My God's bigger than your non-belief in God'...
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#48 - 2015-07-20 15:27:55 UTC
Nuh-uh!
Hendar Attor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2015-07-20 15:30:11 UTC
/grabs popcorn
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#50 - 2015-07-20 16:01:49 UTC
Well, I certainly hope you lot get your thumbs out of your assess and sort out some sort of detente soon. The Gallente and my people are already getting bored of war and we've only been at it for a couple of centuries - I daresay that neither of our nations has any intention of being shackled to someone elses war indefinitely.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Hendar Attor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2015-07-20 16:07:43 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Well, I certainly hope you lot get your thumbs out of your assess and sort out some sort of detente soon.


And miss out on the chance for new toys to play with? You're kidding, right?
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#52 - 2015-07-20 17:24:00 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:

Oh really? How the hell did she manage to "return from the dead" after her apparent ritual suicide during the succession trials, then?
Logically there are only two possibilities.


There is a third possibility.

Magic.

That aside, I have one, major objection to this whole shebang.



The Empress Jamyl, chose to style herself Jamyl Sarum 1.

This is, according to tradition, Utterly Unacceptable.

You see, when one becomes Emperor, or indeed, Empress, one is supposed to give up family associations, and join the Imperial Family, transcending mundane Family politics, and accepting the Duty of being the Representative to God, and all that.

Thusly, styling oneself Jamyl Sarum 1, instead of Jamyl 1, is to retain the Sarum Family link, and thusly, to promote the Sarum Family agenda.

Which is something that the Empress is supposed to be above !

Thusly, I object to this sort of thing.

Down with this sort of thing.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#53 - 2015-07-20 17:46:52 UTC
Most likely a CONCORD registry thing.

https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Jamyl%20I

The proper name is already taken. As usual, I blame lazy bureaucrats.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Arrendis
TK Corp
#54 - 2015-07-20 18:01:57 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
But if you really want to go back to ancient history, the Matari were the original aggressors when the sinned against God.


To quote a junior engineer I once flew with, upon seeing a hundred titans take the field at once, "Wow. Just... just wow."

If we were going to be so venal and ephemeral as to take that justification as valid, then what is there to invalidate any claim of justification for violence on similar grounds? 'I shot you because you sinned against God'.

Surely you can see how that sort of sophistry can lead to nothing but death and destruction in the long term, yes?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#55 - 2015-07-20 20:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Anabella Rella wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

There was a peace treaty. The old war was over.

But if you really want to go back to ancient history, the Matari were the original aggressors when the sinned against God.


Roll
Prove that your so-called god exists and that we "sinned" against it. Idiot.


When we found you, you were a primitive people that had denied God. As an act of generosity we gave you technology far ahead of your own, we took you to the stars, taught you laws, and civilized you. And all this was repaid in terror and death!

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#56 - 2015-07-20 20:42:45 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Most likely a CONCORD registry thing.

https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Jamyl%20I

The proper name is already taken. As usual, I blame lazy bureaucrats.


On top of that, have you ever tried getting Concord to change your registry name? It's nigh on impossible!

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#57 - 2015-07-20 20:44:22 UTC
You're really going to pretend we weren't among the stars already? Spirits below, that's a bit much even for you Blake.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#58 - 2015-07-20 20:46:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
You're really going to pretend we weren't among the stars already? Spirits below, that's a bit much even for you Blake.



I'm glad that you agree with me on the technology, civilization and law part.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#59 - 2015-07-20 20:53:02 UTC
Certainly, we made it to the stars and had the longest recorded period of peace in New Eden entirely through the use of basic grunts and skillful manipulation of wooden sticks.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#60 - 2015-07-20 21:33:21 UTC
And duct tape, Del'thul. Never forget the duct tape.

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