EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi community,


My character may only be 1 day old, but i already see myself as a trader (mainly minerals) in the future.
To become a trader, i would need capital and skills first.

Now, i have 4 questions:

-Which skills should i level first if i want to become a mineral trader who's involved in industry/manufacturing?

-What should i do in the meantime? While leveling my trading skills i need to attain a considerable amount of ISK to begin with trading, what do you recommend to a beginner? Exploration, mining, missions,....?

-I am currently trying to finish my newbie 5 storyline quests, but durning the process, i think i might have dropped my military storyline quest. I did so with the thought that i might drop 1 quest every 4 hours, but it seems like storyline quests were an exception to that, is there any way to get that quest again?

-When I go AFK or sleep for couple of hours, is it possible to do some AFK-ISK-earning such as mining for so long?



I will appreciate any tips or help,

Souls

^ I have no idea where you are coming from, but i think that you completely misunderstand me. The reason why i asked those questions is because i believe that making ISK and gaining skills is the basic to everything you do. Just because i am asking how i can make ISK efficiently doesn't mean that i am a carebear. There's no way i can compete with the experienced veterans any time soon, i am probably less than a small fly to them at this point (100k skill points), so why even bother starting with PvPing.

Also i already read the trade wiki, which doesn't really answer my specific questions

I beg your pardon. I implied that you seek greatness in carebearing because you wrote exactly that.

Anyway, anything of value in the markets is player driven. I can assure you that no experienced veteran will share you in his most valuable trade secrets.

In those many years I play this game I have seen over and over again the sad story that waits for those who believe they need to get theirs kills up. Your will not find greatness in playing save. Go find a corp that got a killboard with activity in your timezone and ready you guns. That's the only path to glory.

FOR THE EMPRESS! AMARR VICTOR!

1. It depends on exactly what your focus is. But if you're looking to build stuff, Production Efficiency 5 is a must. Other than that, it depends on your specific focus.

2. No matter what, you'll need some additional non-trading skills to get going. I would suggest looking into doing some PI, as it's a fairly low-effort (once it's set up) way to get some additional income. As to the other stuff, it depends on how much effort you want to put into it. No matter what it'll take a lot of time to build up ISK at the beginning, the main difference with those three activities is the amount of attention they require and the ISK reward. Mining requires the least effort, but also has the least reward, while exploring requires the most effort and typically pays off much better than the others (and missions are somewhere in the middle).

3. Um, try hitting F12, I think you can redo the intro missions if you skipped them from that menu. I'm not really sure though, I never ran into that issue.

4. Mining is the simplest answer (though anything other than a hauler will fill up quickly). PI is also a good low-effort ISK income that will get you ISK without you being at the comp all day.

And I will say that working on getting a good ISK backbone is a good start, but don't completely discount combat either. Eve isn't like other MMOs where money can compensate for lack of SP or RL skill. I would suggest not being afraid to go out and try PvP if it sounds at all interesting to you, low SP isn't a barrier.

I'm not saying your plan of building up ISK at first is wrong, I'm just suggesting that you not be afraid to go for stuff if it sounds fun.

Oh Joy Joy...

Or you could just go haul trash for the RMT Plantation in Zero.

Poor bastard thinks Eve is a game.

Thank you for your replies.

Keep in mind that i am on trial, so PI is pretty much not possible at the moment.
I think i will start out with distribution missions and exploration.

-Out of the 4 exploration sites, grav, ladar, radar and magn, i assume they are all pretty much equal only with different rewards. Or is there a specific site you would recommend a beginner?

-I guess i should filter distribution agents that belong to the same corp? But after i finished all my missions from level 1 distribution agents that belong to the same corp, would i get acces to all level 2 missions or only from the agents of the same corp?

Well, not really. Any site got a signal strength (read: a number) your probles got a signal resolution (again: a number). If those numbers match you get 100%. Any probe that is in range of any other probe will have it's signal resolution lowered. If you get them to close together it get's harder to scan them.



All those scanning skills, ship boni and rigs have no stacking penalty. Even with perfect skills, imps and the right ship with fittings, scanning wont become *beep* easy. Thanks to that, scanning with lowish skills is a nightmare. Bad game design is bad.

On another note, let's say exploration in highsec would be the bomb. Given that this stuff got limited spawn rates (per constellation), how likely would it be for Mr. Nooby Noobs to find any site that is not taken by a bitter vet already?

The career agent missions do a good job at getting player ships killed ... err ... showing new players what can be done in EVE. Actually they scratch the surface because they can't show you stuff that would require a group. In fact they could but that would need a different kind of thinking by CCP and as it seams we can't have that.

You are falling into the trap that you want to do the fancy stuff right from the beginning. In a game that requires you to have a skill at lvl4 if you want to use lvl2 toilets. You can. If you really want to pee with style, you can have your lvl2 loo. If that makes sense is a different question though.

If you look back at this thread you will see that the answer you get may be related to you questions. Sadly you forgot the mention your objective. At least at the start. If I understood you right you want to get some income to get your feet on the ground and then move on to the fun parts. We would be happy to give you advice that leads you there. If you ask the right question. And yes I am entitled to be an arrogant *beep*, mostly because you are in a long line of noobs who did that same simple mistake (well supported by CCPs new player experience faildesigners).

Security missions have best pay. Actual mission reward might not be much bigger but you also get bounties from most missions and you can also loot and salvage wrecks if you want for extra income.

Survey is the prereq for salvaging.

Archaeology/Salvaging and hacking are required to exploit (respectively) magnetometric and radar sites. These "profession" sites are nice because they net a nice income without having to spend too much time or without having to get good PVE ship.

The other options are LADAR (some are gas clouds which need to be mined with gas cloud harvesters for booster production, others have BPCs and whatnot for boosters and require hacking)...which I think only spawns in certain constellations, Gravimetric, which are hidden asteroid belts with superior minerals, and unknown.

Unknown can be one of two types; either a wormhole (leads to sleeper space, and requires its own explanation) or combat sites (pirate deadspace complexes that can drop valuable loot)

If you'd like a general overview of what there is in Eve, check out What to do in Eve

And I would strongly discourage you from buying a char at this point. Buying chars is mostly for people who are too lazy to train their own chars. In your current situation you lack the experience and RL skills to make purchasing a char worthwhile. You'll be much more effective training up your own character to begin with, Eve is a game that rewards time and effort put into learning the nuances of it.

And as to your question about Salvaging/Hacking/Archaeology, just leave them all at 3 for now. If you end up using them constantly they're worth leveling up, but unless you plan on going for lvl 5 with T2 ones, lvl 3 isn't much worse than 4.