Ships & Modules

Hello, I’ve been on a bit of a break from eve, but I’ve kept my skill queue going. I’ve almost maxed out all the per/will skills that im interested in. I’ve practically only got bs level 5 to go for amarr, caldari and gallente. Now my question is, are they worth it? Everyone knows BS these days only have niche uses such as missioning and structure bashing both of which bore me insanely (Not saying they don’t have their uses in pvp and yes the insurance is nice I guess). I am not a rich man (not rich enough to buy plex), and therefore out of necessity I would use a vargur to mission in to get money for pvp exploits.

Most if not all of my pvp is done in cruiser or below size hulls. I used to have fun doing pvp in my vargur but that’s an expensive habit. So (and yes maybe im anserwing my own question here) shouldn’t I just leave training the rest of the bs to V till next year or the year after depending on how long the int/mem training takes?

I think I have more to gain from getting a few int/mem skills maxed now rather than ~3 or 4 months later. Things Like drones, maxing shield hp, reducing cap usage for various mods like mwd and disruptors etc. imo these would help me more often than having a paladin, kronos, golem, vindi etc (which I can’t afford anyway lol).

Which, brings me onto the inevitable lossmails. Who cares when u lose a cruiser down ship, barring t2’s it really doesn’t matter. In some cases you can make up that loss in less than an hour of missioning. But lose a vindi or a golem and u feel it. Man the more I write the more this is becoming a one sided argument.

I guess im wanting people to give me reasons why I should complete the bs training now.

Many thanks in advance your replies

Also I prolly should get interdictors and heavy interdictors before remapping yes? Forgot those

true but i already have minny bs V and gallente bs 4 enough to fly a mach i think so not too worried on that front.

Hecate is already in game.

Quite honestly, marauders aren't that great. For PvE what counts is DPS, and faction BS are better in that regard. For PvP the only decent choice seems to be the vargur, and you already have minnie 5 for that.

It doesn't help either that faction BS go for half the marauder price. For the same price you can either get a T2 fit marauder or a reasonably pimped faction BS kinda negating the tank issues of the latter.

There are decent T1 choices though. RHML phoon and raven, the new pest, hype, geddon. Also CCP is up to buffing BS a little (pest already had a rework now sporting mach tier damage).

ok, but how often will i use these ships realistically compared to cruiser down size hulls? In my 3 years of playing eve ive only used bs in pvp a handfull of times, half of were structure bashing events where we expected resistance that in the end never showed up.

well some ppl at null and WH use mach or bhaal for small scale roam fleet, you won't use it very much compare to battlecruiser down size hulls

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=424059&find=unread

Read that for reasons why you SHOULD train battleships (past the first few pages of whining). They do take a ton of time though.

Or just watch any of these:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=I4jQENEsbdk (over a year old now)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7KYKyw59Jso (From March of this year)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9dQKmODSLkE (from May of this year)

Blingy Battleships with great pilots are absolute monsters.

While it's nice, compared to better faction BS marauders trade a noticeable amount of DPS for it.

Also for armour marauders it spells "neuted out".

If anything, it's not Bastion. Module. It's Utility. Highs.

For missions I like the paladin a lot. does the same dps as the nightmare, and I prefer the range bonus to the tracking bonus. Never really got into flying the vargur, always go back to the mach instead. My kronos I mostly use to MJD 100km and blaster stuff, might be worth swapping to a vindi. +300 something dps seems like a decent trade for less tank which I don't really need anyways. I don't really fancy missile/drone boats so I'll stay off that subject.

do you train them? I don't know that I would, mostly depends on what else you want to train. I have em all to 5, and my alts do too and I like having it. but I might prioritize some other stuff if I had it to train. Looks like you do have other stuff to do, so maybe get one more bs5 then remap. You have minny so my inclination would be amarr or gallente. Amarr just because I like it, and it was the first one I did. Gallente likely for bonus on mach and vindi, and the domi isn't bad either.

trust me armor marauders get neuted out and die.

once upon a time a foolish marauder pilot decided to enter bastion on the undock of the gallente trade hub. Brave heroes undocked from the station in 18 or so battleships 3 or 4 of which were neutgeddons.

that marauder pilot popped almost instantly. literally blapped. 4.5bill lossmail. he dropped corp moments later

edit hell even shield marauders with asbs suffer from heavy neuting becuase it lowers their resistances. Now in a 1on1 i know an asb vargur can beat a blaaghorn, even a ~2k dps vindi. but this is eve, who will 1v1 a marauder?