Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Personally I disagree with the proposed changes here.

1. By only being able to fit entosis links in stations this gives the defenders a heavy advantage as they can camp entrances to the specific areas if on the low/null border areas. If the attacker is hitting a system further away, maybe 20 jumps into sov from the nearest empire system, they'll have to travel the jumps needed to get there (wasting time) or potentially like I've done in the past scan WH chains for easier access to the target system/s. In all situations the defenders are able to immediately refit in station assuming the fitting service hasn't been disabled previously. Sure this mechanic makes it slightly more equal the defender usually has assets locally to pull from incase of losses, attackers tend not to.

- Sure with the removal of notifications regarding hostile POS's being set up in your space that makes things equal for a short time but eventually as you become active in the area the defending entity is more than likely going to find out about the POS and plan something to kill the POS. I experienced that first hand a few months ago in A-REKV when my corp managed to take the station for a little over 24 hours before G Club brought a 120+ man fleet including 8 supers, we only had 5 or so at peak TZ.

2. Personally I don't see how this will change anything as you can't activate the entosis link when cloaked and vice versa, the only thing this would change is forcing you to have a cloaky alt in system ready to see when you can bring another alt in to entosis structures/nodes.

3. Oversized prop mods don't really matter in my opinion, how many people out there actually fit an oversized prop mod to a ceptor (using this as example as that's what the nerf is being proposed for).

4. Personally I think this suggestion is pointless as most people will stay in entosis range until they actually need to burn out of range, although it could be a good safety measure incase that happens in the future.

Overall I personally think ceptors shouldn't be nerfed instead they should be buffed. When I was out solo entosis'ing a couple of days ago my stiletto which usually goes 4.3k m/s unheated was only going 3.8k m/s which many ceptors without entosis links can easily catch. And of course as you know whilst the entosis link is active you can't warp off so at most that gives defenders/attackers a 5 minute window to catch the ceptor that has an active entosis link. I also think that if ceptors are immune to bubbles surely they should be immune to the warp effects the entosis links have. Sure that would make them even more OP than many claim they already are but that could be substituted with something like 0% resists, something you get when using polarized guns (also gives a reason for the person with the entosis link to fit polarized guns).

Of course not. Anyone can dock at a NPC station and change their fit.

Can you explain the abuse because your post reads to me as, "i dont like some other players playing technique and so it is automatically garbage".

Im not saying your post is garbage but that is how it reads to me right now, some clarification is what im asking for here. Why is it abuse and not just a strategy you dont like?

For the people moaning about not being able to refit in wh's, the idea is to scan wh chains to empire from the target area. That way you get the chain to a station where you can dock. It's not a matter of not being able to refit in WH's, it's more the initiative/thinking power of those playing the game. Something that really annoys me. If you're going to play a game like Eve you need to be able to think for yourself or you're never going to get anywhere.

I guess I shouldn't have included those other smaller suggestions as everyone laser focus on those instead of the main one. So I deleted them and left the one about the mwd cycle time.

You do realise, that aside from being easily contravened by logistics (ie; not the cruisers) the whole nerf to S199's, N432's and Z142's kind of means that forcing Entosis links to be fitted only in stations should ideally be redundant.

The OP is simply incapable of using his brains to figure out ways to undock, knock the Entosis troll out, and then go about his business being a terrible ploughshare in the great nullsec farm of the sky.

Changing MWD cycle times to 1s won't solve the problem of lazy peasants not wanting to protect their turnip farms.

You are aware that this was a bug and it got fixed?


Despite that, I don't think that OP's changes are what we need, but I agree we need some changes to reduce the numbers of troll-assaults.
Now before someone again mentions we just need to undock and deffend our space.
Yes, thats right but it would be nice if there realy would be a fight and not just a troll-interceptor which burns away as soon as someone enters the grid, or worse, just the system...

I already mentioned one possibe way to fix this issue.

Maybe this is not the best way, but I think it's a step in the right direction.
Solo-trolls can still generate a notification but are less likely to actually reinforce a system, except no one responds to the notification.
The advantage of this would be that after the reinforcement there would be ideally small groups of 5 around to claim / deffend the system.

problems with trolltosis links?

no ceptor can fit a t2 entosis and mwd and run that capstable (correct me if im wrong)
you can just counter-entosis when someone sits at 200+
or maybe get a sniping rokh
or maybe get in a ceptor and fly to him
or use a curse/pilgrim and neut at 80km
there are more modules besides heavy neutron blaster II and large shield extender II
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