Market Discussions

I'm going to increase my investment, another 190m for 190 shares increasing my total to 200. I may not be online for a while, depending on how things go; I'll do my best to send isk asap.

5) The proprietary software I'm developing will stream data from EMDR and try and find the most profitable routes within a set of constraints factoring in a variety of things including jumps, security, volume, etc. It is still very much in its infancy so I can't really say anything else about it yet. If it works well, I may consider licensing it to other corporations.


Eve central pretty much does that .. you tell it what system you wanna go from and were you wanna go .. How much cargo you have and how much profit you prefer per Jump/trip and it finds wich items you can turn profit hauling between those 2 points .

I dont understand what happened when you say you split the stock.... But starting over is perfectly fine. I am thinking about doing the same since I have 100,000 shares created, it makes paying dividends difficult as the roi increases. I've had to do it by hand a few times just because I didn't have 7 or 3bil in liquid isk. Learn from my mistake: Only create double the amount of shares you need, or expand into, keep 50% and put the rest into circulation.

For the record, I wasn't scamming. I was playing a game with Mr L Shiyurida based solely in personal money as a way to kill time while orders came in. I occasionally through some of my personal money around as a form of entertainment. I have not, do not, and will not waste any money entrusted with me by others in such foolishness. I will be happy to verify this if anyone doubts me.

However, I understand this looks bad and if anyone wishes to pull their investment because of it I will honor my past commitments and buyback their shares at 1m a piece.

In other news, there are now 18 investors and a total of 1.3 bil in the corp. I have 390 more shares I am willing to sell after which I will not be selling more until I am confident I can maintain consistent profitability.

I completely agree. To start, I've created the following API key which anyone can use:

Key ID: 4535059
Verification Code: pEo9qZDizcTbp90eIo7YQ85YB9Gtep0tXDNrjBCxkDMgreIA8VSJ5kfhGHUsCqPU

This key will let you view the corporation's current balance and the Journal. Hopefully this will be enough for it to be obvious that I am managing the fund to the best of my abilities and not randomly giving Isk out to strangers. Note that the journal primarily contains market interactions related to buy and sell orders. Furthermore all other interactions are documented - for instance when I transfer money into the account it is labelled "Investment" and I have it labelled as "Dividend" when I transfer money into the master account and then labeled "Dividend payout" for returning the money the corporation receieved for its portion of the shares back to the principle. Further note that one investor has pulled their investment (several days ago unlrelated to this) and that this interaction is labelled "Share buyback." The only other entry of note is "Scam buyback" which is one of the initial 2 million I invested after being paid to say someone's scam was valid. This was before other investors that I did not have a close relation with had come on board and I had not fully decided what the corporation was about. Note that besides this one initial payment all other payments are well documented and align with what I have said so far.

If someone wishes to view additional information, for instance my personal journal, or to look at the specific assets we were purchasing. Message me in good faith and I will do my best to oblige. However, I feel the key above is just open enough to reveal enough information to corroborate what I have said while restrictive enough to not infringe on the corporations autonomy and the privacy of the investors.

Note again that if, in light of any of the information that I have put forth, an investor no longer feels comfortable with me handling their money, I will stand by my initial offer and buy back their shares at 1 mil a piece.

Hopefully this helps clear things up,
--Morton Summers

Fair enough. I don't believe I ever received Isk from you in game. If you sent me Isk via an alt, please contact me through that alt and I'll take care of things. Otherwise, I guess our business is concluded. I appreciate you expressing interest at least for a small point of time.

In addition, it's worth pointing out that the line "Probably not a scam™" lies in the original post and all of my Jita advertisements have been made with similar levity. Make of it what you will.

Anyways, I'm sorry we couldn't continue to work to together. If you ever change your mind, feel free to let me know. I'll still be here :)
--Morton Summers

I would like you to explain the contract issued by you to a pilot in Jita, an Imicus worth maybe 400k isk, contracted for 100mil, found in your contract history.

Was this your successful attempt at scamming newbs in Jita?

I have highlighted some key words stated by you, and want to point out that while using investors' isk to scam SUCCESSFULLY isn't entirely bad, it does show that you might scam your investors eventually....

Haha, while that looks like a scam in retrospect, it wasn't really one in the traditional sense. I advertised the contract in Jita local as an "ASPIRING DOMINIX(tm)" with an associated rhetoric that made it clear it was a very bad deal. The person who ended up completing the contract bought it because they were amused with what was going on not because they were tricked. Afterwards, I promptly contacted them explaining that the contract was not meant to be completed and offered to either refund their money or give them 100 shares in the corporation. They elected to get 100 shares and are currently one of my investors. If you wish me to put you in contact with them, I can look into doing so and they will verify this story.

Also, to Avi, I'm only human. I make typos like everyone else.

Let me get this straight. A Random dude with no past MD history posts a convulted business plan involving some magical shares, no collateral and a spreadsheet aka "propriatary software".


1) Open google docs and google ImportXml.
2) Pull jita buy price from eve-central.
3) pull jita sell
4) substract
5) Add fancy colors
6) Optional: add different hubs.

Voila. You got yourself priopriatary software.

Feel free to send 50 mil shares err isk to me. Please include buyback/api key/ROI/double down/IPO/on tilt or any other fancy term as reason.

To be fair in a way you have to admire the op. Instead of scaring people by asking for huge amounts of isk from few people he went the other "retail way" and asked for little from a lot. He also made the "share payback" system so complicated and convulted everyone is talking about that instead of looking at the fundamentals. Everyone here seems to be so obsessed with how the share system will work they're forgettting to ask where will the actual money came from. Either way this will be a fun and a bumpy ride for all involved. Thanks for entertaining us!