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WH life, High, low and Null?

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-31 06:05:35 UTC
Hey all,

Forum ate my first attempt (forgot to CtrlA, CTRL C)

So my main question is for those who have lived in WH's with null statics.

I've lived in a WH with a HS static. Easy logistics, lots of visitors when the static is open.

I'm currently in a WH with a LS static. Much quieter. Logistics isnt as easy. Visitors who do come my way are often more dangerous. I enjoy playing in LS however, which is why I chose it.

I'm looking at maybe moving again, this time ive been considering a WH with a null static. Kind of for the same reasons, to play more in null. I know logistics will be much harder. But what I don't know is how the null static tends to be

Is it even quieter than LS? Is it a lot more dangerous? (more nullsec roaming parties coming in and bounding your pos for lols?)

Thanks in advance!
drinking12many
Nine Inch Ninja Corp
#2 - 2011-12-31 14:32:19 UTC  |  Edited by: drinking12many
Well for the most part you static will be dead... you may get the occasional visitor but for the most part the nulls we hooked into were dead so if it was really dead we would rat there or do some small roams. Now on the other hand much like any other wormholes the c4 c5 you connect into are very dangerous. We are a small alliance and lost ships more than once due to their ability to field a fairly large competent fleet very quickly as soon they get a hole into yours.

I give ADHOC a lot of respect for that they caught/baited us once and inflicted billions of isk almost got us a second time running sites our carrier entered warp as soon as they dropped on grid and just got lucky.

Logistics by far the biggest pain it could be weeks for a hi-sec and we missed a lot of them due to player times. It tooks us months to move out of our WH due to that to and always kept 2-3 mos of fuel.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2011-12-31 22:15:46 UTC
I've never had a hisec static but have lived in various w-systems with lowsec, nullsec, and w-space statics.

IMO nullsec statics require a fair bit more orgnaisation and patience than the others. Resupply from hisec is the main issue you find yourself grappling with is getting stuff to, and from, hisec. The nature of thru-static visitors wasn't really a problem ... altho the nullsec did seem to bring with it a better class of visitor (gankers included). Most of our visitors were always thru incoming K162s anyways, and having a nullsec static meant they were more likely to close their conenction and look elsewhere for their hisec access.

We still run our nullsec static C3 and rely heavily on hisec K162s for resupply and getting most stuff to market. Occasionally we'd use the static to get ourselves out to empire for other commitments or to get a load of sleeper stuff to market ... and we never managed to get a WH to EC-P8R :-(
The frequency of hisec K162s is quite variable, from a rash of one every day for a week thru to nothing for a month. The average was somewhere in the 5 - 10 days range. A few times came, early on, when we thought we'd have to try sneak some more POS ice-fuel in via null but, in the end, there always seemed to be a hisec K162 coming along just in time.

When our static was activated and we got visitors from null they were generally more savvy, but most of our nullsec visitors were there to break their nullsec monotony and harvest some sleepers ... or try kill us. None seemed seriously interested in attacking our POS. I was surprised to learn, during some of those cat-and-mouse games, that quite a few null-dwellers haven't got a clue about w-space.
Some nullsec dwellers routinely use WHs to access hisec. I guess it's easier to head thru a low-end w-system or two, to get to hisec, than it is thru 23 nullsec gate jumps, but they're usually accessing your system via K162s rather than your static.

A nullsec static also offers you better quality sites thru-the-hole and you can find yourself running sigs / anoms or ratting in very quiet backwater systems .... bouyed by the pure luxury of having a local channel alert you to potential visitors.

Having lived in C3s with nullsec and lowsec, but not hisec, statics my preference atm is for lowsec - the system I am sitting in as I type. There doesn't seem to be a big difference in thru-static traffic and it's relatively easy to haul large amounts of stuff thru lowsec to hisec ... no bubbles.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Bibosikus
Air
#4 - 2011-12-31 22:19:03 UTC
In general, null dwellers have enough on their plate without looking for pvp in a system with no local.

Logistics, strategy and placement are all about K-space. Active campaigning null alliances don't have the time or resources to worry about wormholes.

You will of course, occasionally be scouted if you open your static. But the likelihood of that happening, as opposed to having a highsec static, is extremely low.

Generally, you'll find a null static to be safer in the long term. But there's always the possibility of opening into an NPC core system or a rally point. Just fit a LOT of eWar on your large POS :)

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-12-31 22:32:33 UTC
Thanks all. The info really helps.

I initially had picked my current WH with a LS static to play more in LS. HS had become boring. Now I had always heard how empty LS is. But generally my LS statics aren't all that empty. Good for PVP, not so much for PVE.

So my thoughts with a nullsec exit is to give me a new playground when the WH is empty. Not entirely sure yet if it is worth the hassle of a nullsec static, but I'm not quite ready to move yet anyhow. PLus I dunno if my corp mates would be happy with me yet either.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#6 - 2011-12-31 23:32:33 UTC
When I was in a 0.0 corp, we always checked all the WHs that opened in our systems.
80% of the time it was to find an hi sec exit to haul some stuff the easy way.
20% of the time was to go in and see if there were some guys to pew pew. Heavily dependant on the day's online officers moods Pirate