EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'm trying to get through the tutorial agent missions and it's all going a bit pear-shaped. I had a mission where I had to find magnetric (sp?) anomalies and the agent gave me two items to use - an analyser and a salvager. So I did a basic scan, found three containers and another location anomaly. I warped to each container but my analyser didn't find the right type of proof of discover. So I warped to the other location and got destroyed by some pirate of some sort. So, back at base I am given a new ship but no new analyser or salvager. So I fork out the cash for one of each on the market but then discover that I cant fit the salvager without skill: archaeology. So, I'm down big bucks and with no apparent way of picking up the mission fresh because after quitting the mission that agent now says she has nothing for me...

Oh well, I tried a different agent who gave me a combat mission. I headed off and got destroyed pretty fast. So, I'm down by another three modules/weapons and needing something harder hitting to even scratch my target. I went onto the market again and fumbled through there guessing at what might be an appropriate/better gun. I re-bought shield boosters and tried again. Again I was destroyed without hurting the pirate much. My attempts to warp away were "not possible". My 20,000 isk insurance payouts are a fraction of the cost needed to refit my ship and I'll run out of money very fast at this rate. I can't afford to get destroyed again so could anyone help me know what on earth to try to salvage the situation? Shopping for guns is very confusing.

Cheers

Guns are the most complicated weapons to use in all honesty, especially if you're just trying Eve. While there are many important aspects of gunnary, for now the main two to worry about are optimal range and fall-off. You can find both of these by pulling up your turrets information from your ships fitting menu (alt + f) and with ammo loaded. It is important to pull the information from there because we capsuleers have skills that alter the performance of turrets, and that altered info can only be pulled from the fitting menu.

Now for their meaning. Optimal range is the 'ideal' range for your gun. Fall-off is the range where you gun starts to become less effective. For an example, let's say your turret has an optimal of 10k and fall-off of 5k. Anything within 10k, you should be able to hit easily (not counting angular velocity, which is also important but more complicated). Now, once you go past 10k, or your optimal, you will see a noticeable difference in how often you it. Within 10-15 km, you'll hit about half of the time. This is your first fall-off. If you go another 5k, or beyond 15km, you'll almost never hit.

As for not being able to warp away, I'm fairly certain they wouldn't toss warp-scramming or e-war rats at new players (I don't remember any from when I did the tuts). I'm guessing that you may be 'boosting' your capacitor dry. If that's the case, that's why you could not warp away, as warping does require capacitor. You may want to try fitting a hardener or two to reduce some incoming damage. Hardeners also use much less capacitor than boosters, but obviously don't repair, just increase resistances. Google the rats (npc ship) 'tribe' i.e. gurista, angel, sansha, and you should be able to find what type of damage they deal so you can fit the correct hardener from the four damage types, or ask if you cannot find the info.

Lots of info I know, but Eve has been out for many years and there is much to learn. Don't let the learning curve discourage you. All it takes is time and research.

Hope this was helpful. I'll check back in a few if you have any more questions, or are unsure about any information.

i think you should of purchased a "civilian" salvager

Pressing F1 took you a while to figure out, huh?

If you quit Career Agent mission, you can't get new from same agent - however there are 3 Career Agent solarsystems for each race which have same 5 agents, so you could travel to some other Career Agent solarsystem.

All Career Agent systems are listed here, below starter systems: Rookie Systems. So for Minmatar those would be Hadaugago, Malukker, Embod

While Career Agent missions do teach about EVE and they give nice rewards, they aren't absolutely necessary. So if you don't want to travel to other system you could also just go on with whatever you can do and ignore the agent who doesn't give you mission anymore.

And if you want to travel, to get route there: Open "People & Places" on left, select Search Type: Solar System, write solarsystem name and press Search, then in new window that pops up right click solarsystem and select "Add waypoint".

When scanning for the gravimetric/magnetometric/radar/ladar sites in the tutorial, make sure it's the *training* sites you scan down not the real ones.

I don't think you can buy replacement civilian salvagers/analyzers/codebreakers on the market, but it should be possible to get them from players who have already completed the series. Two of each are given in the tutorials and are of no use afterwards, so the only reason for anyone to keep them is in case they want to keep open the possibility of doing another set of tutorials, but they would only need one of each for that anyway.

The modules can be traded in station via the trade window.

What? Where did my post go?????

Ok, I'll try again:

Now that I have a bit more time I'll try to give a more complete reply – being a newbie myself, I'm fresh out from the same situation.

If you read the mission descriptions carefully you'll see that you shouldn't meet any rats in the training sites, which means you were in a real site, not the practice one. That would also explain why you weren't able to get the required proof of discovery. I did the same thing, but although I quickly realised my position, I decided to have a go anyway. Obviously, I got my arse handed to me in pretty short order.

The fact that the loss of your modules left you without replacements suggests that you haven't yet done the business tutorial, which gives a second civilian salvager/analyser/codebreaker set. Did you actually quit the mission (i.e. by clicking the 'quit' button)? If not, leave it open and do the business tutorial as far as the point where you have received the missing modules again. Then go back and finish the exploration mission. Check the expiry date – they stay open quite a long time.

You don't have to finish a tutorial in a single uninterrupted sequence – you can hop about from one to another, just don't actually accept a mission until you're good and ready to do it.