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Evading CONCORD

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Amarkir Krindrik
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-07-11 08:51:37 UTC
I've read that evading CONCORD will get you banned, and I was wondering if this meant using a hack or third party program to do so, or just avoiding in general.

For instance, if I gank a miner in 1.0 space, then warp to a deadspace area I have bookmarked, could I be banned for evading CONCORD? (Could they even warp to my bookmarked location?)

Thanks

"Fitting laser pewpew beams to a Cormorant is a sin." - Wendrika Hydreiga

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-07-11 08:55:33 UTC
Google helps a lot about this. Like, it will tell you that you can't warp off with GCC, unless you cheat and time it properly. Which is illegal and should get you banned, btw. You can't evade CONCORD.

It's nice you ask questions, but why don't you do even a minimum research of your own?

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Amarkir Krindrik
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-07-11 08:57:39 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Google helps a lot about this. Like, it will tell you that you can't warp off with GCC, unless you cheat and time it properly. Which is illegal and should get you banned, btw. You can't evade CONCORD.


Thanks for the help

"Fitting laser pewpew beams to a Cormorant is a sin." - Wendrika Hydreiga

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-07-11 09:00:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Amarkir Krindrik wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Google helps a lot about this. Like, it will tell you that you can't warp off with GCC, unless you cheat and time it properly. Which is illegal and should get you banned, btw. You can't evade CONCORD.


Thanks for the help

Sure! Anything else? A massage? With happy ending? Or maybe a counselling session? The whole two hour program of psychological and physiological relaxation costs only 200million ISK. Satisfaction guaranteed!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#5 - 2015-07-11 09:56:09 UTC
I have been able to warp off during a gank.

Once.

It was basically one of those one-in-a-million moments that happened just as I shot an innocent pilot who I thought had aggressed me (yeah I was Suspect at the time).

I had clicked on the warp button seconds before I went Criminal.

I thought for a second I had gotten away with it when CONCORD scrammed me (which knocked me out of warp halfway to where I was going) and then they landed on grid and blew me up.

The bastards.

Sigh.

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-07-11 10:22:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Renegade Heart
Mike Adoulin wrote:
I have been able to warp off during a gank.

Once.

It was basically one of those one-in-a-million moments that happened just as I shot an innocent pilot who I thought had aggressed me (yeah I was Suspect at the time).

I had clicked on the warp button seconds before I went Criminal.

I thought for a second I had gotten away with it when CONCORD scrammed me (which knocked me out of warp halfway to where I was going) and then they landed on grid and blew me up.

The bastards.

Sigh.


Same here. I was shooting pods, then spamming warp to get my pod out. I was quite surprised to see my thrasher warping away after the gank, but I felt bad, so I warped back to the gate so Concord could get me Smile

Only ever happened once though.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-07-11 10:47:45 UTC
This is actually easily repeatable, but apparently CCP doesn't do anything against it until too many do it. And it's being done. There's not much to gain though, except not having CONCORD on target-grid and having the turrets of your tornado reset for another volley after you warped 50km.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

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Ivana Smirnoff
Northern Experimental Research Organisation
#8 - 2015-07-15 15:57:59 UTC
would it be possible to attack another player, go global, eject and have an alt collect the ship that was used in the attack without it being blown up by concord?

i understand that by ganking and taking part in hyperdunking you are not so much as evading concord but you are perverting the course of justice which is a crime in the real world and this should be transposed into the game and made an exploit imo
Paranoid Loyd
#9 - 2015-07-15 16:03:00 UTC
You can't eject.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#10 - 2015-07-15 17:08:28 UTC
Ivana Smirnoff wrote:
would it be possible to attack another player, go global, eject and have an alt collect the ship that was used in the attack without it being blown up by concord?

i understand that by ganking and taking part in hyperdunking you are not so much as evading concord but you are perverting the course of justice which is a crime in the real world and this should be transposed into the game and made an exploit imo

Your real world laws have no place in my eve

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#11 - 2015-07-15 20:26:26 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Google helps a lot about this. Like, it will tell you that you can't warp off with GCC, unless you cheat and time it properly. Which is illegal and should get you banned, btw. You can't evade CONCORD.

It's nice you ask questions, but why don't you do even a minimum research of your own?


you're soo friendly Smile

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#12 - 2015-07-15 21:31:58 UTC
There's only one remaining way that I know of to evade Concord, and no I'm not telling what it is.

Regardless, doing so will get you banned, because we can't have emergent gameplay being allowed to beat out the Magic Space Police.

Now, hyperdunking? Perfectly legal. Look into that.

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Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#13 - 2015-07-15 21:46:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Faylee Freir
Ivana Smirnoff wrote:
i understand that by ganking and taking part in hyperdunking you are not so much as evading concord but you are perverting the course of justice which is a crime in the real world and this should be transposed into the game and made an exploit imo

There's no perversion. You go GCC, your ship gets blown up. Using a Ship Maintenance Bay to hop into another one in space is not bending the rules or exploiting anything.

The only way I've heard of people recently (and accidently) evading concord is with grid wall mishaps.
Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-07-15 22:09:48 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Amarkir Krindrik wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Google helps a lot about this. Like, it will tell you that you can't warp off with GCC, unless you cheat and time it properly. Which is illegal and should get you banned, btw. You can't evade CONCORD.


Thanks for the help

Sure! Anything else? A massage? With happy ending? Or maybe a counselling session? The whole two hour program of psychological and physiological relaxation costs only 200million ISK. Satisfaction guaranteed!


A mere 200 million? A pittance. He should take you up on this to get rid of some of that stress.

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Globby
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Gimme Da Loot
#15 - 2015-07-16 14:55:19 UTC
There are a couple ways of avoiding concord retribution, all of them known to CCP and easily catchable and easily bannable. AFAIK if somehow you avoid CONCORD by warping off, as long as you don't shoot anyone again after landing, and let yourself die, you should be 100% ok.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-07-16 20:35:11 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Ivana Smirnoff wrote:
would it be possible to attack another player, go global, eject and have an alt collect the ship that was used in the attack without it being blown up by concord?

i understand that by ganking and taking part in hyperdunking you are not so much as evading concord but you are perverting the course of justice which is a crime in the real world and this should be transposed into the game and made an exploit imo

Your real world laws have no place in my eve

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#17 - 2015-07-17 01:12:00 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Ivana Smirnoff wrote:
would it be possible to attack another player, go global, eject and have an alt collect the ship that was used in the attack without it being blown up by concord?

i understand that by ganking and taking part in hyperdunking you are not so much as evading concord but you are perverting the course of justice which is a crime in the real world and this should be transposed into the game and made an exploit imo

Your real world laws have no place in my eve

Noragen Neirfallas, Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve.

Adding that to my bio Blink

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takedoom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-07-20 10:37:12 UTC
If you have a security status of -4.9 or of higher numerical value, you're officially evading concord.

http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/

Paranoid Loyd
#19 - 2015-07-20 13:30:55 UTC
takedoom wrote:
If you have a security status of -4.9 or of higher numerical value, you're officially evading concord.

No you're not. Concord only shoots at you when you have done something to flag yourself a criminal.

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takedoom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-07-21 23:24:48 UTC  |  Edited by: takedoom
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
takedoom wrote:
If you have a security status of -4.9 or of higher numerical value, you're officially evading concord.

No you're not. Concord only shoots at you when you have done something to flag yourself a criminal.


-4.9 or a higher numerical value means you're still a care bear. Crime isn't for everyone I guess.

http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/

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