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Best Killer Fleet Size in 2014 - Solo!!
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Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#61 - 2015-07-15 13:33:34 UTC
Misunderstood Genius wrote:
All this shows: solo PvP is completely bullshit and irrelevant in EVE because EVE is a MMORPG and not a Single Solo Online Role Play Game. It's finally just a lame epeen thing. Nothing else. Who cares? WHO CARES?


Apparently you do with that nice block of rant. Show us on doll where the bad solo pvp'r touched you.

So.. let me get this straight. Flying solo and fighting PEOPLE or MULTIPLE PEOPLE (not NPCs) does not qualify as PvP in an MMORPG? How am i not interacting with other people when i kill them, or they kill me? Is that not THE definition of PvP in an MMORPG? Or do you think the only pvp that should exist is sitting in nullblobs for 5 hours bashing a structure (NPC) and then getting blue balled because the opposing fleet chickens out? Or waiting for hours for your fleet to form up for a "fight" only to find out its a TCU/SBU grindfest (again more npc structures).

Or finally, you get a fight with another fleet and then instead of a 45min slugfest, its a 8 hour tidi induced cripple fight? Pull your head out of your ass, some people got tired of blob fleets because they're boring and not the kind of PvP everyone enjoys.

Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role - OP SUCCESS

Make the Muninn great again!
Jenshae Chiroptera
#62 - 2015-07-15 13:46:27 UTC
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
... So.. let me get this straight. ...
I won't lie. I envy those players who jump a ship solo through a gate, burn away from the gate and kill a gang (or most of it) solo. I do not have the twitch reflexes for playing like that.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#63 - 2015-07-15 13:49:14 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
... So.. let me get this straight. ...
I won't lie. I envy those players who jump a ship solo through a gate, burn away from the gate and kill a gang (or most of it) solo. I do not have the twitch reflexes for playing like that.


Don't forget they are doing this with Fraps running 60fps, listening to really cool music under their comms channel and have a billion chat windows open Shocked

Me... I just do the small gang stuff, and usually die when that Small v Small turns into Small v Small + 100 neutral Logi

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#64 - 2015-07-15 15:53:01 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:

Far more satisfying to have PvP be Predator v Predator... may the best win.

What you are calling PvP is simply an arcade game of target practice vs game mechanics.

Nah, far too simplistic a view. Sure, evenly matched battles can be satisfying, but they are not intrinsically more interesting than more lopsided contests. There can be great satisfaction in stalking and finally catching and blobbing that elusive target who has been dodging you for weeks, just as there can be in sneaking your transport through a gate camp or baiting that suicide ganker into attacking your linked hulk, or just warping of as a squad of gankers lands on grid.

Elite PvP is about beating other players. If someone decides to recklessly expose themselves in order to enrich themselves, it is your duty as an Eve player to call them on that and enforce the risk vs. reward design of the game. Elite PvP is about most affecting the gameplay of your opponent, not putzing around in inconsequential but dazzling duels, or random roams with evenly-matched and like-minded space samurai. And it is definitely not about jacking up your killboard with shared kills as so many of the supposed "elite" have been doing.

All of Eve is "Predator v Predator... may the best win". We are all ruthless and predatory demi-gods who are battling for limited resources in New Eden. You do not get to opt out of this competition just because you feel like pumping resources into the economy that day, resources that will make me poorer overall, and you a stronger opponent in the future. I am going to try to stop you from gathering those resources, and you will try to get away with them. That is the game CCP has designed, and an interesting one at that, and it is the one that we are all playing together.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Anselme
Doomheim
#65 - 2015-07-15 15:55:59 UTC
Solo PvP has been dead for years. Everybody knows that. You need to pledge fealty to the overlords of Eve if you want to be allowed to PvP.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#66 - 2015-07-15 17:04:07 UTC
Anselme wrote:
Solo PvP has been dead for years. Everybody knows that. You need to pledge fealty to the overlords of Eve if you want to be allowed to PvP.

How would you know? You are an NPC alt

Evil RatKid
Vadik Volkov
Doomheim
#67 - 2015-07-15 17:09:44 UTC
LOL Eve players arguing about "elite PVP". CCP shouldn't be given the honor of using that term.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#68 - 2015-07-15 23:37:02 UTC
Vadik Volkov wrote:
... CCP shouldn't be given the honor of using that term.
The best games for playing against others:

- Snooker
- Go
- EVE
- Descent.

You want to try tell me that Tiddly-Winks, Beer-Pong or Waste of Web are the pinnacles of "elite PVP" games? Roll

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2015-07-16 00:21:13 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Vadik Volkov wrote:
... CCP shouldn't be given the honor of using that term.
The best games for playing against others:

- Snooker
- Go
- EVE
- Descent.

You want to try tell me that Tiddly-Winks, Beer-Pong or Waste of Web are the pinnacles of "elite PVP" games? Roll

We need to find an online Go and PLAY ! Big smileBig smileBig smile

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Jenshae Chiroptera
#70 - 2015-07-16 00:58:13 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
We need to find an online Go and PLAY ! Big smileBig smileBig smile
http://www.gokgs.com/

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2015-07-16 01:05:39 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
We need to find an online Go and PLAY ! Big smileBig smileBig smile
http://www.gokgs.com/
That's not usable on mobile. What?
Though it's a good start! I'll check the android market (you don't have an iPhone do you?) tomorrow as well!


Awesome! Lol

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Jenshae Chiroptera
#72 - 2015-07-16 01:09:12 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
That's not usable on mobile. What?
Though it's a good start! I'll check the android market (you don't have an iPhone do you?) tomorrow as well!
They do have a mobile application but I can't tell you much about it, as I replaced my cell phone with a camera and an alarm clock, since that is all the use I had for it.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Lugburz
Warcrows
Sedition.
#73 - 2015-10-10 06:37:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugburz
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
How am i not interacting with other people when i kill them


Ahhh that did make me laugh.

Solo PvP (the specific kind im talking about is one person, one toon) is not dead; just dont expect a sh*t ton of kills on your board and you gotta expect losses, i think this is where most people become disinterested with solo pvp - losses.
There are many that seem to think your only 'good' at PvP when you have few losses: certainly this would be backed up by every killboard i can think of statistic wise (go look up well known solo pvpers boards). These are usually the people that call themselves 'elite pvpers' and typically do not solo unless theyre in a far superior ship than intended target.
Most solo pvpers i know generally dont tend to term themselves as such mostly only being concerned with 'a solo' kill or linking a battlereport they did well in - and losses; whilst typing "gf" and "pod plz" in local.

Anyway, not dead but would be nice to have an area for people to congregate in, which would be probably be brutalised by medium to large gangs; of course the only way to resolve that would be to have two corps set up as blue (in this instance meaning help if blue being attacked by a gang, fair game if not) - im not strictly a solo pvper though, i do like small gang stuff and flying ceptor for fleets also has its [PIRCS]
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#74 - 2015-10-10 16:39:12 UTC
You had to have one really durable shovel there.