EVE General Discussion

WIS went down the shitter, CCP announced they will refocus on the real game. FIS was only stagnating because CCP neglected it during the space barbie brain fart, if they keep their promises FIS should get a lot of improvements over the next few expansions.

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lol spaceships you say? you started playing a spaceship game, because you are not satisfied you want CCP to ruin the core game because you chose the wrong game in the first place? Thats as pants on head ******** as going to play WoW and then demanding spaceships.

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I Know the mayor of Boston.

and what's the core game according to you in EVE ?

The old and stupid space-barbie argument *yawn*.

Try to grow up a bit and in a few years you might be mature enough to return to EVE, in the meantime I recommend cancelling your subscription.

oh god i am so drunk now but cheers happy new year see you around same time next year,
wis still shitcanned, fis supremacy suck it o7m8ers

Suggestion: make incarna a free to play addon for EVE. If you want to fly spaceships, trade with buy and sell orders, produce things (all those things that casuleers do) you need a subscription or a plex, but if you content of walking in the sation corridors, you can do it for free. For putting up establishments and incarna related stuff, pay with aurum.

Put a courier system in the game that allows you to clone in another station.

I won't comment directly on the merits or short comings of your idea, but +1 for putting out an open minded idea.

But for anything to happen on this front, no matter which way it would go, two things would have to happen.

1: A proper plan for game play development goals and reasonable allocation of developer resources that don't ignore the pre-existing area's of the game would have to be agreed upon.

2: Work on this would actually need to be resumed at some point.

That, ultimately, is the main point of this thread. To express the point of view that while pretty much everyone is not pleased with how things have been handled so far, the core concept and technology developed to support it has merit and should not be abandoned... instead (once damage repair is done) development should continue in a reasonable and responsible way.

The post-Crucible survey is on, everyone who wants more WiS go take it! Make our voice be heard!

Post-Crucible Survey

I agree with this part.

Eve subscription may not be a whole lot but it sure as hell should be enough to cover the entire game.
Some wise man in another thread once said it best:
any cash shop in a pay to play game is wrong.

Just burn NeX.

That's all we're asking for. And yes, you are right to despair at the horrifying incompetence that was shown at the 1 room in 3 years.

Do note though, there was another build at one point with a lot more actual working content before they decided to build a new engine. People were actually able to play it at one of the fanfests. That alone did show that it can be done. So why wasn't it? Good ******* question.

Between building a new engine from scratch, the push for MT garbage, WoD taking such a huge chunk of the staff and the further mismanagement of available resources... the answer lies somewhere between all of these.

We know a lot more work has actually been done, and station environments have been constructed that we are not able to play yet. We know this because establishments have been internally playtested, and we were told they were not very fun with their current implementation so they decided not to run with it for crucible.

So two things are holding them back now.

The first is the lack of a good plan that will satisfy many of the players without pissing off the other half, and the second is people who are jumping on the "I hate WiS because someone told me to" bandwagon.

Both of these problems are fixed when people hop off the bandwagon of hatred and ignorance and start telling CCP what they actually want out of WiS. The sooner this gets done the better, because right now it's obvious they don't really have a plan anymore.

Yes, CCP seriously blew it and wasted 3 years of our time. Yes, we're just as pissed off at them as you are for neglecting other aspects of the game while they did that. We are ALL playing the same game and feel this **** the same as you. but what is done is done. To let that three years of bullshit be for nothing is just insanity now. WiS is in the game, we need to push for it to actually be relevant now.

We also need to push for **** like cosmos, for FW, for half the **** they cut out of dominion, for half the **** they cut out of tyrannis, etc. Even if some of that **** didn't matter to you, it mattered to someone who patiently waited for it. We are all victims of the same cycle of stupidity, and nobody should get left out in the cold on this.

You should tell them what it is you actually want. Apparently their own game designers haven't got a clue, and if you leave it to them you could end up waiting a very long time indeed.