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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#81 - 2015-07-15 14:57:49 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you want to keep everything the same because you are just unable to adapt... you are not advanced enough to understand where I'm going or what direction the world is going


now i'm confused. What?

you are the one asking things to be dumb down because you can't adapt on how EvE works. Roll


wtf is going on here, i need to unsubscribe from this shambles of a thread as his stupidness is making me think im stupid

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Baaldor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#82 - 2015-07-15 14:58:39 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Baaldor wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
eve has become too much of a smartass game where some crazy dickheads control the entire game, it needs to get back to what gaming is about, there needs to be more options to bypassing the social interaction if you don't want that ****, people are getting tired of that, they want to play a game sure with others however the social interaction they want is by gaming not by talking to some kids that are just full of themselves

the numbers are growing, all aspects of the game need to be accessible without coms to attract a greater audience and to reduce the influence of the dickheads



Nope, what you fail to grasp is that this Game was designed a certain way. It has been called a niche game for a very long time, and it appeals to a group of gamers that have been looking for this sort of game. As in there is no other game like it.

That is why there are people that has been here for a very long time, it is not WoW, it is not like anyother. And that is why you get reponses like this.

As i see it, we have a group of people that has been enjoying the game as it is intended, and playing for quite a while, new people show up and see what we see and they too enjoy it.

However, then we get this self centered socially challenged folk that seem to want the rules to and mechanics to be changed and catered to them. Knowing full well, that after a a short period of time you will go on to another game and turn that into a an abortion of some sort too.





you want to keep everything the same because you are just unable to adapt... you are not advanced enough to understand where I'm going or what direction the world is going

you are unable to understand that future human interaction will happen via technical solutions instead of your apemouth and ears

you are unable to grasp my vision, you just want to baa with your friends like sheeps on the meadow


Making assumptions is bad.

I do understand.

You fail to understand or want to take the time to grasp the concept of the supposed issue before you make the change.

You also lack the ability to discern the difference from a a "leader" and a sperging self entitled monkey like your self.

Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#83 - 2015-07-15 15:01:56 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up


People can already start a fleet and allow public joining via a fleet advert, nothing more needs adding
Captain Awkward
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2015-07-15 15:25:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Awkward
Once apon a time WoW was like EvE. A WoW Server was a social comunity where people knew each other. You needed to be in a guild to do stuff. You needed to be on coms even for 5 man dungeons. It brought people together. Created friendships that lasted for years, even long after the people stoped playing WoW.
If you were a dickhead and got kicked out of your guild, other guilds would probaby not accept you as word of your actions could spread quite fast. This created a social pressure to behave. Bad for the dickheads, good for the honest players.

Just like beeing a dickhead in RL will mean that no one will invite you to partys anymore.

Then WoW introduced all the stuff that you want EvE to implemt. Gues what happend : Socal level dropped to the floor. The dickheads, trolls, leechers, ninjalooter and kiddys crawled out of every corner.

Blizz did not anticipate that. If they had, they probably would not have done it in the first place. Once it was done, they could not take it back. It took them years of lowering dificultiy and impletemting stuff like personal loot and vote to kick functions to get it under control. And its still unplayable for players with a interest in teamwork and social interacting. Which is the usual EvE player.
Jeanne Tivianne
#85 - 2015-07-15 15:28:26 UTC
This thread's going places.







Places with a lock icon, I hope.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#86 - 2015-07-15 16:47:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Captain Awkward wrote:
Once apon a time WoW was like EvE. A WoW Server was a social comunity where people knew each other. You needed to be in a guild to do stuff. You needed to be on coms even for 5 man dungeons. It brought people together. Created friendships that lasted for years, even long after the people stoped playing WoW.
If you were a dickhead and got kicked out of your guild, other guilds would probaby not accept you as word of your actions could spread quite fast. This created a social pressure to behave. Bad for the dickheads, good for the honest players.

Just like beeing a dickhead in RL will mean that no one will invite you to partys anymore.

Then WoW introduced all the stuff that you want EvE to implemt. Gues what happend : Socal level dropped to the floor. The dickheads, trolls, leechers, ninjalooter and kiddys crawled out of every corner.

Blizz did not anticipate that. If they had, they probably would not have done it in the first place. Once it was done, they could not take it back. It took them years of lowering dificultiy and impletemting stuff like personal loot and vote to kick functions to get it under control. And its still unplayable for players with a interest in teamwork and social interacting. Which is the usual EvE player.


sure and thats why eve subs skyrock right? you did get something wrong buddy, people are leaving because of that extreme social interaction with you smartguys that know everything better... nobody wants that any more, people want to play independent with eachother

go login to facebook if you need so much social interaction

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
flakeys
Doomheim
#87 - 2015-07-15 16:48:07 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you want to keep everything the same because you are just unable to adapt... you are not advanced enough to understand where I'm going or what direction the world is going


now i'm confused. What?

you are the one asking things to be dumb down because you can't adapt on how EvE works. Roll


wtf is going on here, i need to unsubscribe from this shambles of a thread as his stupidness is making me think im stupid



Welcome to Harry's world , it's been a while since we where drowning ..uhm...drawn into one.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Raith Crimson
Doomheim
#88 - 2015-07-15 16:49:10 UTC
What your asking for is essentially instanced Battleground type pvp.


This would destroy the game forever.

my ideas are my own and have no reflection on the ideas of my current corp / alliance.

excuse my terrible typing.
Zealous Miner
Doomheim
#89 - 2015-07-15 16:51:31 UTC
This already exists.

1. Go to a tradehub.
2. Spam fleet invites.
3. Fly your mess of a group into lowsec.
4. Shockingly be betrayed by these people you've never met before and have no loyalties to you.
5. ???
6. P-...profit...

Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#90 - 2015-07-15 16:52:04 UTC
Raith Crimson wrote:
What your asking for is essentially instanced Battleground type pvp.


This would destroy the game forever.


no its just a simple fleeting-up tool that makes lifes easier for FCs

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#91 - 2015-07-15 16:54:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up



So you are saying 90% of the eve players are complete idiots?Bit unfair to think everyone's like you isn't it harry?


with complicated I mean to make easy things complicated, things that can be taken care by a program, if you want to keep doing repetitive simple things sure it needs to stay like it is... I'm more the guy who handles topics the most efficient way, thats why I see the need of a fleeting-up tool to support FCs to get up a fleet fast without a hassle

you are scared to use computers and programs to do repetitive easy tasks, stick to your old system of getting up a fleet, no problem

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Baaldor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#92 - 2015-07-15 16:58:00 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up



So you are saying 90% of the eve players are complete idiots?Bit unfair to think everyone's like you isn't it harry?


with complicated I mean to make easy things complicated, things that can be taken care by a program, if you want to keep doing repetitive simple things sure it needs to stay like it is... I'm more the guy who handles topics the most efficient way, thats why I see the need of a fleeting-up tool to support FCs to get up a fleet fast without a hassle

you are scared to use computers and programs to do repetitive easy tasks, stick to your old system of getting up a fleet, no problem


it has nothing to do with computers.

it has everything to do with communication. And the type of communication you need in this Game, is what you are missing.
Niriel Greez
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2015-07-15 17:02:26 UTC
Encouraging blobbing even more would literally be the worst thing you can do to this game.

You're dumb.

Thanks.
flakeys
Doomheim
#94 - 2015-07-15 17:04:43 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Etara Silverblade wrote:
What you're looking for is Spectre Fleets. Fleets for anyone. Just join and go shoot others.

Check it out: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-spectre-fleets/


does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up



So you are saying 90% of the eve players are complete idiots?Bit unfair to think everyone's like you isn't it harry?


with complicated I mean to make easy things complicated, things that can be taken care by a program, if you want to keep doing repetitive simple things sure it needs to stay like it is... I'm more the guy who handles topics the most efficient way, thats why I see the need of a fleeting-up tool to support FCs to get up a fleet fast without a hassle

you are scared to use computers and programs to do repetitive easy tasks, stick to your old system of getting up a fleet, no problem



And people wonder why ''we are dumbing down'' .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#95 - 2015-07-15 17:06:39 UTC
people here just don't want to loos the social interaction to assure they are able to keep telling people how important they are

they hate a fleet tool because it would make them uniportant to the game, its the struggle for survival I feel in every comment here

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Jeanne Tivianne
#96 - 2015-07-15 17:06:48 UTC
There is so much to the fleet dynamic that you do not understand. A random grouping tool is great for an MMO like WoW or Rift, where group play is designed around instances and rail-based goals. It is a disaster waiting to happen around an open-ended sandbox PvP game like Eve.








You may as well call it "I want to be someone else's content" queue, because that is what you will be if this tool was a thing.
flakeys
Doomheim
#97 - 2015-07-15 17:08:48 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Raith Crimson wrote:
What your asking for is essentially instanced Battleground type pvp.


This would destroy the game forever.


no its just a simple fleeting-up tool that makes lifes easier for FCs




Hahahah , you think it will make life easier for FC's?

If you find it too hard and too much work to get into a spectre or bombers bar fleet the old fashioned way then i'm sure the FC will be THRILLED not to have you in it.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#98 - 2015-07-15 17:10:39 UTC
Drake of feed, idc

Evil RatKid
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#99 - 2015-07-15 17:11:30 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Raith Crimson wrote:
What your asking for is essentially instanced Battleground type pvp.


This would destroy the game forever.


no its just a simple fleeting-up tool that makes lifes easier for FCs




Hahahah , you think it will make life easier for FC's?

If you find it too hard and too much work to get into a spectre or bombers bar fleet the old fashioned way then i'm sure the FC will be THRILLED not to have you in it.


you don't get it, the alliances could use the tool as well in their alliances to bring together fleets, people who want to join just go into the queue, sure if you want to tell everybody first how important you are and that you are the greatest FC of all times and stuff, sure then this tool would not satisfy you much, understandable

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Fatoria Hemah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2015-07-15 17:11:38 UTC
Yeah sure, let's get a fleet-matchmaking just like WoWs Raidfinder...as if that didnt kill serious raiding there What? Let's get people that don't know s**t about fleets with no clue on how their ship could benefit a fleet or if they do don't know proper fitting in a fleet with FCs that can't FC as if they could they would have people to get in their fleet without a fleetfinder.
This will totally work till the first gatecamp with 3 people that know what they are doing rip the fleet to shreds.
This f'****ed up raiding in WoW and there you don't loose anything but a few gold to repair your equipment, this would be another gankfest for CODE. as if ganking afks wouldn't be enough for them