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Aegis Nullsec Wormhole Changes Too Big
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William Husker Adama
Voyager Syndicate
#1 - 2015-07-15 12:39:46 UTC
So in the Aegis patch there was a significant reduction to the frequency and lifetime of nullsec wormholes due to some complaints about PL killing ratters. Here's my feedback as someone who lives part-time in a wormhole.

Personally I think the changes were too big. I make part of my in-game income from farming vital and instrumental core gas sites in C5 and C6 wormholes that I find while roaming nullsec from my own C3 with nullsec static. I have also been experimenting with some of the C5 data sites using a Stratios.

This is no longer a viable means for me to make my ISK, because the amount of probing required to find a C5 or C6 wormhole in nullsec that is not at the end of its lifetime is absolutely ridiculous. I may end up probing 2-3 hours in different regions only to find one or two collapsing wormholes.

However from the perspective of the C3, I do prefer the shorter 16 hour lifetime of the K346 static. Means I don't have to roll the static as often as I previously did.

But I think wandering wormholes to and from C5 and C6 wormhole space should be increased significantly, like by 40-50% at least. Right now there's a real drought of content and ISK for people who utilize those kind of connections, and it's not only PL and HK that use them.

Please consider making some adjustments to the previous changes.
Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#2 - 2015-07-15 13:09:07 UTC
William Husker Adama wrote:
Please consider making some adjustments to the previous changes.


Please consider moving to a WH with a static C5+ connection. Seriously. When CCP modifies things, you can either adapt (in your case, move to a new hole) or do nothing (and loose your income). Your choice.

French half-noob.

Non, je ne suis pas gentil.
William Husker Adama
Voyager Syndicate
#3 - 2015-07-15 14:59:10 UTC
Nyalnara wrote:
William Husker Adama wrote:
Please consider making some adjustments to the previous changes.


Please consider moving to a WH with a static C5+ connection. Seriously. When CCP modifies things, you can either adapt (in your case, move to a new hole) or do nothing (and loose your income). Your choice.


Sorry, but this is the features and ideas forum, where paying customers of CCP can give feedback and discuss features and changes on EVE Online.

I am just providing feedback from my perspective regarding this change, how it is affecting my gameplay and my opinion on what could be done to improve the situation.

If you disagree with my stance and have nothing to constructive to say, feel free to ignore this post, as it is certainly better than being a condescending bittervet.
Iain Cariaba
#4 - 2015-07-15 15:37:56 UTC
William Husker Adama wrote:
Nyalnara wrote:
William Husker Adama wrote:
Please consider making some adjustments to the previous changes.


Please consider moving to a WH with a static C5+ connection. Seriously. When CCP modifies things, you can either adapt (in your case, move to a new hole) or do nothing (and loose your income). Your choice.


Sorry, but this is the features and ideas forum, where paying customers of CCP can give feedback and discuss features and changes on EVE Online.

I am just providing feedback from my perspective regarding this change, how it is affecting my gameplay and my opinion on what could be done to improve the situation.

If you disagree with my stance and have nothing to constructive to say, feel free to ignore this post, as it is certainly better than being a condescending bittervet.

Yes, this is F&I, and yes, this is where you can discuss features. That said, posting whine thread about how your ability to make isk has suffered is not going to gain the best of receptions. Most all of us here have had CCP nerf our game drastically at some point, and we've all adapted. You seem to forget that this is EvE, where being told to adapt is, indeed, constructive when given examples of how you need to adapt. The only posts I've seen in this thread that weren't constructive have been yours.
Artemis Panala
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-07-15 15:39:57 UTC
To be fair the only people who seem to like these changes can be found for comment cowering in a POS shield every time a non-blue is in local.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#6 - 2015-07-15 17:36:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
Nyalnara wrote:
William Husker Adama wrote:
Please consider making some adjustments to the previous changes.


Please consider moving to a WH with a static C5+ connection. Seriously. When CCP modifies things, you can either adapt (in your case, move to a new hole) or do nothing (and loose your income). Your choice.


or unsubbing, which is becoming more and more of a viable choice after the number of absolutely idiotic recent changes.

Iain Cariaba wrote:

Yes, this is F&I, and yes, this is where you can discuss features. That said, posting whine thread about how your ability to make isk has suffered is not going to gain the best of receptions. Most all of us here have had CCP nerf our game drastically at some point, and we've all adapted. You seem to forget that this is EvE, where being told to adapt is, indeed, constructive when given examples of how you need to adapt. The only posts I've seen in this thread that weren't constructive have been yours.

counter-whining about whine threads is even worse, while he has a point, you dont!!

CCP wrecked another part of the game for no good reason!
Iain Cariaba
#7 - 2015-07-15 18:11:28 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Yes, this is F&I, and yes, this is where you can discuss features. That said, posting whine thread about how your ability to make isk has suffered is not going to gain the best of receptions. Most all of us here have had CCP nerf our game drastically at some point, and we've all adapted. You seem to forget that this is EvE, where being told to adapt is, indeed, constructive when given examples of how you need to adapt. The only posts I've seen in this thread that weren't constructive have been yours.

counter-whining about whine threads is even worse, while he has a point, you dont!!

CCP wrecked another part of the game for no good reason!

Hello pot, I'm kettle.

Do you not realize that as long as you continue to pay for your subscriptions, you are giving CCP tacit approval to continue to wreck various parts of the game? If you're that unhappy about the changes, vote with your wallet and unsub.
William Husker Adama
Voyager Syndicate
#8 - 2015-07-15 18:20:30 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
If you're that unhappy about the changes, vote with your wallet and unsub.


I will when my sub runs out in 8 months, if the situation has not improved.
Iain Cariaba
#9 - 2015-07-15 18:27:49 UTC
William Husker Adama wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
If you're that unhappy about the changes, vote with your wallet and unsub.


I will when my sub runs out in 8 months, if the situation has not improved.

It would be more effective for you to unsub now and demand refund of your remaining 8 months of subscription time. This will actually cost them money, so they will know what's going on rather than you silently drifting into oblivion.