Intergalactic Summit

Nice dodge.
You make a wonderful Amarrian, lawyer and politician... all of which seem synonymous with religion for some reason.



If by some chance you would like to actually address my question towards you in a realistic fashion, I will be here waiting for you to "dazzle me".

He did not address my question.
Thus he is full of ronto poodoo and so are you.




Either he or his friends hold slaves. Real ones and not philosophical ones... he made no mention of those in his "musings" (*cough word games) and that is what I was asking about.

The pain caused by Amarr Slavery requires justice, however slavery of Amarr in return is not the answer it is aberrant to any civilised woman.

The best slaves come from the Federation.

Giving people some kind of vote, while controlling and corrupting the system that determines who you get to vote for, is the best deception you can have. You can get the people to vote for their own enslavements in all sorts of way, justifying encroachments on their rights and property for "needs" such as the "general welfare" and warfare. The people will happily think they are free while living a system that forges their chains. Some get to have better chains than others of course, and those who don't have good chains are encouraged to blame themselves. There are others who actually get to be the ones who put the chains on people and derive a living from that, and foster a system that justifies the whole thing.

Of course you won't get them onto your ship to pull on levers all day. That looks like actual slavery. But there is a system like that, and they happily pull all kinds of levers every day, never once knowing of the possibility that they are indeed slaves.

Whoever managed this is awesome!! I mean not a chain in sight? How did they get them to sit there all day and perform such basic tasks. Maybe there were armed guards outside?


I'd bet they were threatening their families with being thrown out on the street, eventual sickness and starvation. Yea, I betcha that was the ticket! Well I guess that is one alternative to my now PATENTED technique. Oh yea baby!

Well let's consider this.


If you buy a slave, and hence own that person's labor, you also have the overhead and charge of everything the slave needs to live and work.

You have to provide food and clothing for the slave, provide the slaves tools, and with that investment in mind, it's not good economics to abuse them or get them killed.

Now let's compare that to someone who is simply being paid low wages, or serves on a ship simply because there is no other way to "make a living".

Sure they get paid, but like the slave, they do not own the means of production - meaning that your best remote repair operator is nobody if he is not working for someone with that kind of equipment.

They get compensated for their labor, which is taken to mean that they are "not slaves" but they have to take that compensation and provide their own shelter, clothing, food, medical care, and in many cases their own tools too.

Some who would agree that this too is actually slavery would then offer up more slavery as a solution, by clamoring for all of us to pay for the shelter, food, etc, through taxes. But often the failure to pay taxes means imprisonment, fines, and other such matters that, like a whip across the back, is a threat of negative consequences. So those who struggled hard enough to be more well-off slaves and have an easier time paying off their bills are then punished for that.

Meanwhile, those higher up on the ladder, who pay the "slave wages" can manage the "lawfare" well enough not to have to pay those taxes too, from lawyers and contract-fu depending on what empire they are in, to actually being top campaign contributors where "democracy" is concerned hence a representative body that comprises a vending machine for the privileged.


So no matter how we color it, anybody who does not own their labor AND the means of their production is a slave in one way or the other. And quite often, those who have the means of production have facilitated a system whereby you have to be quite well-connected to acquire such means yourself.

Slavery is everywhere. Where there are no shackles, it's called "the system" instead.

I think that the most important thing here is that Rorin Cutter still refuses to comment/address the question that he has been asked.

What is this drivel?

Right, I was told that I was not allowed to commune with the other pod pilots there. Evidently "free to all" is not free to all at all, but... in the words of my good friend Tyler Durden... I guess that am not surprised. Free to all is never really free to all, people just pretend that it is. I was however VERY surprised to hear this from a true slave




I mean, a true slave is dictating what can and cannot be spoken of in the summit. Does this not bother any of you?

This topic has devolved into nothing more than toilet humor and mindless attempts at justifiying slavery.

I personally do not keep them, my crew are well paid and looked after for the work they do any captures we aquire are blooded or destroyed instantly if they do not match the criteria set.