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Gank request (Aaron Belmont - Corp Thief)

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#21 - 2015-07-14 15:11:05 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
A friend of a friend told me that OP wanted to awox the poor hauler, but he managed to dock in time safely. Then the hauler dude quit the corp and OP got mad.

I dunno if it's true but it seems highly likely.

It's a sad day when second hand knowledge (or is that third.. meh) is still the most reliable posted in days...



The awox attempt is for reals. The hauler pilot is a RL cousin of mine. I kept quiet just to see what the OP would say and do. He tried to awox him while he was hauling scordite for the corp. It was a total set up. I may have to dec the guy once Vimsy is done w/ him.... for the family.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#22 - 2015-07-14 16:03:16 UTC
By all means, do not let me stop you. The more the merrier.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#23 - 2015-07-14 19:20:52 UTC
any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun

He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever
Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for..

... What next ??

Paranoid Loyd
#24 - 2015-07-14 19:53:57 UTC
GordonO wrote:
any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun

He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever
Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for..

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5504176#post5504221

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#25 - 2015-07-14 20:08:50 UTC
GordonO wrote:
any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun

He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever
Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for..



Are you the leader of your corp. At first that seemed true, but if you are ditching them this easily, then i'm confused.

Eve numbers are dropping because of ishtard, t3 tanks, sentry archons, off grid boosters and Baltec1 (in no particular order)
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#26 - 2015-07-14 20:16:02 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
GordonO wrote:
any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun

He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever
Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for..



Are you the leader of your corp. At first that seemed true, but if you are ditching them this easily, then i'm confused.

Eve numbers are dropping because of ishtard, t3 tanks, sentry archons, off grid boosters and Baltec1 (in no particular order)



yea not the leader.. just trying to help out new players where I can.. which is working out quite well this time round Roll I am leaving cause if all you lot are going to do is war dec them because of my comments, my leaving should fix that.. and well they a bunch of pretty decent newbies..

... What next ??

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#27 - 2015-07-14 21:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
GordonO wrote:
Waaa you mean meanies are mean for playing computer games at me. Better abandon ship at the first sign of danger and leave all my friends who I alleged to be leading to the wolves even though I am personally responsible for the danger they are now facing!


If people like you are the ones I am allegedly driving from the game I am doing everyone else a service.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#28 - 2015-07-14 21:23:29 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
GordonO wrote:
Waaa you mean meanies are mean for playing computer games at me. Better abandon ship and leave all my friends to the wolves!


If people like you are the ones I am allegedly driving from the game I am doing everyone else a service.


nice change, don't care about me.. READ!!!! and I won't be leaving EVE.. perhaps you should go donate isk, ships and heaps of time to new players instead of creating content for yourself.. Roll

... What next ??

Torx Rench
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-07-14 21:43:59 UTC
I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.

Thanks,
Torx
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#30 - 2015-07-14 23:41:21 UTC
Torx Rench wrote:
I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.

Thanks,
Torx



wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..

... What next ??

Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-07-14 23:56:27 UTC
I stepped on a Corn Flake, now I'm a Cereal Killer.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#32 - 2015-07-15 00:47:55 UTC
For the record ganking and killing in general of new players in eve positively affects retention

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Paranoid Loyd
#33 - 2015-07-15 00:54:15 UTC
GordonO wrote:
Torx Rench wrote:
I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.

Thanks,
Torx



wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..

Seems you spoke out of turn to begin with and now you continue to run your mouth. Maybe you should shut it as you should have from the beginning. One would think you would realize by now, you are not helping, in fact it is quite the opposite.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#34 - 2015-07-15 01:36:06 UTC
Torx Rench wrote:
I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.

Thanks,
Torx

That's all well and good but under C&P Law 2 there is a provision for a good story out weighing the need for evidence. So based on that spin us a fun yarn and I'm sure it will go away Blink

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#35 - 2015-07-15 03:06:25 UTC
GordonO wrote:
Torx Rench wrote:
I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.

Thanks,
Torx



wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..


He was civil, courteous even. Adult. He got more than two likes for that.
You, on the other hand, have most likely found yourself watchlisted by a number of 'griefers' and 'gankers' who due to your approach to this situation will most likely be eyeing your future career with great interest.

At least it wont be boring.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#36 - 2015-07-15 11:54:03 UTC
GordonO wrote:
Torx Rench wrote:
I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.

Thanks,
Torx



wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..


He's stepping up and being accountable for his guys and the action of his guys. That is admired on this forum. It's a corollary to posting with one's main. If you take a a step back and look - we're pretty much the staunch conservative party in eve. It's all about making sure folks do the right thing. We do our best to keep the game right and pure.

Your CEO (well ex ceo at this point) is a good man and seems to be a good leader. He saw a problem (that would be you), he stepped up and took care of it. As it stands, I'll pay Vimsy the dec fee to cancel and pull off his corp. In my view the cancer has been removed so the corp should be allowed to move on in good health and with good wishes.

As noted - it would be appreciated if your CEO provided us with an amusing accounting of the whole situation (I will stress here that we aren't that interested in facts, it's all about the story - factual accounting of events is only mandatory when thanatos carriers are involved)
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#37 - 2015-07-15 12:43:00 UTC
These folks can only be described as relentlessly apologetic. I told one of them last night to put in a 100 mil surrender at any time and I'll accept it. I also recommended that if they don't want to do that they have some fun and try and kill some people (set a log off trap for Yuller, he always falls for them).
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#38 - 2015-07-15 13:09:11 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
These folks can only be described as relentlessly apologetic. I told one of them last night to put in a 100 mil surrender at any time and I'll accept it. I also recommended that if they don't want to do that they have some fun and try and kill some people (set a log off trap for Yuller, he always falls for them).

I'll remember this next time we go to war Blink

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Justinenough
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2015-07-15 13:35:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Justinenough
Hello all

I see a few things here..... Actions taken by some on both sides has led to this corp being WD`cd.

I have Messaged Vimsy in game, but have only just found these postings here in the forum, so I await her Reply.

Often in situations like these the facts get melded into various stories where there is no burdening proof, and people in many ways have "dug themselves" into a hole.
Faced with no ladder up, the situation becomes a question of pride, along with its inevitable fall. With respect... this has happened to GoronO

Playing Devils advocate, whilst I am not defending his actions, he acted alone, but from his own`frame of reference`; he thought he was doing right for the corp.... Even though this was not the best path,,,, the `good` intention was there.

Now faced with this situation, the best path is for solution for ALL sides.

There have been, reading previous posts generous offers of bringing this to a conclusion, For those offers and to those people I will thank you... even if the offer is not taken up.
I Would propose that If you are serious about the apology Gordon) then you pay the required fee to Vimsy to nullify the WD.

I might suggest that this will be in your favour and show that you are able to make reparations, and with it the respect you would again gain by the Justice community. If you feel that the isk penalty is too high then I would pay 50% if you are willing to compromise.

Ordinarily I would say let the WD run, but as we are only just developing I feel it may be a little too early for some of the new recruits.... The lesson of the inevitable war dec can be played further down the line.

I hope this can go some way to putting closure to this and those involved parties can regain their pride and respect back


What do you say GordonO?

Justin
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#40 - 2015-07-15 13:41:56 UTC
O.O
STORIES!
We love stories.
A good story can save lives or kill thousands depending upon how it is told.
We do appreciate the candor here, as many purveyors of C&P are of a mind that respect is something cultivated instead of simply granted.
You seem alright, how you proceed from here will directly affect the opinions and regards of the various viewers.
Indulge us in our petty desire for gossip, if you would?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.