Market Discussions

Completed/Currently running bonds:

Bond #1 (500m isk, Matured, paid out): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=7422

and its subsequent thread announcing its completion: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&m=127864

Bond #2 (2bn isk, Matured, paid out): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18073&find=unread

Bond #3 (3bn, Matured, paid out concurrently with bond 4): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23688

Bond #4 (5bn, Matured, paid out concurrently with bond 3): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30892&find=unread

Bond #5 (12bn, Matured, paid out): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39360&p=2



Standard Introduction:

Hello to all - I have been playing eve close to 2 years now and have been practicing with small investments on the market. I believe I have been waiting for a while to get a chance to start a bond and this seems like a decent starting point.

A little bit about myself and my corp - My entire corp of Often AFK is my 2 mains and alts. All 6 chars are trained in PI, and I am currently running 12 planets in a WH with elite CC for PI which nets me between 700 to 800m a month with this char and another, Colonel Vatutin. My total assets excluding the resources in the WH come to about 37.2 bn at the moment, increased now due to better PI market conditions to a little over 1.1bn. Most of them are heavily invested in the markets, and since I have been investing seriously since the end of august I have been able to gain a good 30% back on my investments due to heavy market PVP. I started with about 1.18 bn on liquid isk around the end of august this year, and is now investing a little over 34bn.

The #6 bond amount will be to 20bn, with shares offered at 100m increments for a total of 200 shares. The rate will be set at 12%, and I hope to fill it soon and run it until December 29th, 2011.

Otherwise, terms are similar to what it was in the past. Only this time, please send it to Colonel Vatutin.

Even if everything somehow went south, I could potentially liquidate around 60% of my total market escrow to cover 20bn + interest at will from total of 34.2bn current escrow.

Details are as follows:

- 20bn total bond value, available in 100m for each bond share. 100,000,000.01 isk bonds will be returned to owners due not following instructions

- 12% return with principle at the end of the cycle exactly on Jan. 29th, 2012.

- Bond will run as soon as it is filled and iskies are received.

- Send ISK to Colonel Vatutin - my other main in the same corp.


- No collateral, only my trust and yours in making this work.

- Risk of running: As I always say, why the hell would I run off in a char with some few bucks worth of isk when I invested over twenty times that playing eve for 2 years on two accounts? Why would I risk ostracizing and biomassing my chars for this amount? To me, these two accounts are culmination of a series of hard-learned lessons that I hope to expand upon and achieve a notable degree of financial and influential success. But then, it all comes down to mutual trust in investments.


The reason I do so without a collateral offering is the following:

I believe trust is a valuable and most expensive commodity there is in the dog-eat world of eve online, and I hope to earn that trust to expand my business! Btw- chribba is a fine example of trust as an invaluable asset- I do hope I can do the same. In the future with greater amount I will be willing to use his services to secure collaterals, but I wanted to prove with these humble bond offerings that I can be trusted - with or without oversights. I believe this is a risky but sincere manner in which I hope to earn your trust. Normally such offerings will give 8-10%, but considering the risk, I am offering greater rates at 12%.


Furthermore, eve for me is a way to relieve stress in a virtual world; as generic as that sounds, some people actually have a life (WAT??) and I have my fill of dealing with scumbaggery and general s#ht in real life, I do not need more here. I want to explore just what I can achieve in a comparatively secure (trust me it is) environment that is eve and hope similarly like minded people would agree in this endeavor. If interested, see past threads about answers to questions regarding my policy in this matter.

Also, I will be willing to put up collaterals and other safety net options , so if you have concerns previous investors, please feel free to let me know. As you have chosen to offer me your trust, it is only fair that you have a place to suggest whether you would be more comfortable in such settings, or if you have no problems with current details. It is overall greater profit for all in its current state of offering, since more liquid isk flowing = greater chance at making profit. But ofcourse, you have a significant say in whether you will continue to feel comfortable, or suggest at which point you would like me to offer safety nets. As previous investors, It is entirely within your right to give such advice and ask for such details

Smooth sailing




Bondholders:

Juunichi Asakura - 5bn (50 shares) received, confirmed.
Hillesumos - 1bn (10 shares) received, confirmed.
Stabmeldys - 3.5bn (35 shares) received, confirmed.
Lupe Lamora - 600m (6 shares), received, confirmed.
LlamaBin Llama - 2bn (20 shares) received, confirmed.



RESERVATION POLICY:

Post here and/or shoot COLONEL VATUTIN an eve mail/convo to reserve the shares. ISK must be sent within 24 hours of said post/mail/chat or else it is revoked.



EVE MAIL/CONVO Colonel Vatutin for any questions or emails, since that is the char I am online with most of the time.

Bond #1 - 500m
Bond #2 - 2bn
Bond #3 - 3bn
Bond #4 - 5bn
Bond #5 - 12bn
Bong #6 - 20bn...

Have we reached your acceptable scam point yet? Or are you holding out for 50bil?

Put me down for 5bn.
I'll trasnfer the isk later today.

Happy isk-making!
JA

Baa.

At least you're an honest sheep.

Juunichi Asakura - Your reservation of 5bn has been noted.

General Mic - Thank you for your interest. I am sure you will have time to put in that 1bn when a few more people show up =)
Just remember the reservation policy, and that any and all requests for reservations must be clearly stated ('I would like to reserve so- and so- amount of isk/shares).

Keep it coming folks, and thank you again for your continued interest in these ventures. I just wish holidays ended sooner so I could have spent more time in eve last few weeks =)

@ Hexxx

Thank you for your sound input. I will look into it at the earliest opportunity and make the changes within a day as I get the time to read through some of the things you mentioned.

Such helpful advice are all welcome. There cannot be any 'small' details where such bonds and offers are concerned =)

@ General Mic

Reservations noted. Thank you.

OP, why bother even logging in with Junnichi Asakura, a simple "My alt thinks all my offerings are legit" will do. For investors new to this, check previous investment threads, 10 points per suspicious similarity you find.

Confirming JA isk received. Thank you. I hope you invest even more in the future =)

Waiting on General Mic....with about 6 hours to go

JA, you come to these threads defense an awful lot for a meer investor.